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ChristineFroehlich - > -> Has anyone been watching the new Addiction Series on HBO?
Has anyone been watching the new Addiction Series on HBO?

Has anyone seen any of the HBO series....Addiction?

It is amazingly real, educational, and a bit scary for any of us who have kids. I have been watching it, and I have to share it.with you all  if you have kids out there, have a gander. These are real stories involving real people and what they go through.  They had a whole show on Meth("Montana Meth"), and as I understand it, Kern County has a Meth problem. It is a very scary dark, drug!

Any comments on what is being done to curtail the problem or view points from current or former users? Do we have any community support to fight this problem in our own community?

They showed all the ingredients on the series, and it's essentially made from a combination of poisons and toxins. Yikes!

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posted by ChristineFroehlich on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 01:33 PM
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posted by Sparks on Mar 21, 2007 at 05:09 AM

Mimi  I can tell by your posts that you are intelligent and that you like yourself a very lot.   That really is the key to being mentally healthy and not wanting to do mind altering drugs.  I enjoy reading your posts and love your outlook on life.  I like that you are bold and stand by your convictions.  There is an inventory that addicts do when they go through a 12 step program.   You list the people you have resentments about, then you list the resentments then you list what part YOU played in making these resentments happen.    In other words we learn not to blame everyone else for situations we ourselves may have contributed to.   We learn to take responsibility for our actions as well as learn to like who we are.  We do this by being PAINFULLY honest with ourselves.    It's amazing what honesty and self realization will do for ANYONE whether you are an alcoholic or not.   I haven't been involved in a 12 step program in a dozen years or more although I remember it well and let me tell you I was INSANE, I was ANGRY and I was CONFUSED LIKE HELL until I learned to like myself , and as you can see I do like myself a very very lot today!!!!  lalalalala   lol

 I am one of the few that do not believe alcoholism is a disease.  I drink a couple drinks now and again and on special occasions and I do so without fear that I will go back to being a drunk.   Why? Because I love my life and I love my life sober.    I don't recommend that people drink while they are in recovery though.  LMFAO   Once you love yourself and are willing to take responsibility for your own actions... Then drink all you want.   You will be amazed at how little that will be.   P.S.  Drugs are very addictive to anyone mentally sound or not..   STAY CLEAR OF DRUGS.

posted by Colitas on Mar 21, 2007 at 08:03 AM
countygirl -thank you, thank you, thank you...."self worth"...I was searching for that phase all day yesterday and wouldn't come to me!  Self esteem or self confindence is very important, but I was trying to come up with "self worth".  Thanks for the finding the words that I couldn't :)
posted by jewels on Mar 21, 2007 at 08:56 AM

WOW SPARKS...i am surprised.  I love myself now and i do take responsibility for my own actions, but that in no way gives me the power to drink.  I am completely powerless over any substance that alters my state of mind or physical being.  You talk about the 12 steps for addicts, well it originated in AA.  ALCOHOL.  Anyone who has ever been addicted to anyting, knows one is to many and a thousand never enough. 

Actually the inventory step is step 4,  1. writing down the name of who you have a resentment against, 2. why you have the resentment, 3. how it affected you, 4. what your part was in it.  

  So you are saying someday if an alcoholic "gets better" they can drink?  Didnt you use to work in a recovery center?  I think you are justifying and rationalizing having that drink.  If you have had any real education in the treatment of alcoholism or drug addiction you would know that drinking is NOT an option. The whole point in being and staying in recovery is being ok with yourself to never have to take that drink.  WHY DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO HAVE A DRINK HERE OR THERE?  Is it for the taste? For the affect?  Whats your point? 

ALCOHOLISM IS A DISEASE OF THE MIND, IT ONLY TURNS INTO PHYSICAL CRAVING AFTER I HAVE TAKEN THAT 1ST DRINK.  STOP KIDDING YOURSELF!!  ITS NOT OK!

sparks wrote:

Yeah, insecurity .  No matter where it comes from, it encourages most of us to drink

also Sparks, didnt you send me a link to your 12 step website? Are you still involved in a 12 step program or not?

posted by jme on Mar 21, 2007 at 09:38 AM
This town does have a serious drug and alcohol problem. The actual population is open for debate, yet the residents of the area spend over $300,000.00 a month on alcohol alone (conservatively)? I do believe in Christ and there are many Individuals here who say they believe in Christ and have no love for thier own neighbors........................... its quite tragic. My point is I truly beleive we are all born with a void to fill. Im trying to fill my void with Christ on a hourly basis. but some people for many destructive reasons choose drugs or alcohol, shopping etc etc............................ Can we all just get along?
posted by GregL on Mar 21, 2007 at 09:52 AM
I don't really want to get in the middle of all of this, but jme, how in the world did you come up with the claim that residents spend $300 a month in alcohol?  Can you reference the source of that claim?  Or did you just whip it up out of thin air? 
posted by eekitsaspider on Mar 21, 2007 at 10:24 AM

Wow if I spent $300 on alcohol I would be seriously intoxicated!! I guess I am below average because I spend maybe $40 a year on alcohol and that is usually at the end of the year for New Year's eve...

I would also like to know where jme got his facts from???

posted by ChristineFroehlich on Mar 21, 2007 at 10:37 AM

 

Sparks and Jewels~

Okay. let me chime in here for a moment on Sparks behalf. Everyone has their own tolerance and hopefully at some point knows what they can and cannot do as a responsible adult. I think that if Sparks wants to have a glass of wine once in a while, and doesn't have a problem with alcohol, and does it for her own enjoyment, there's nothing wrong with that. I myself like to have a glass or two of wine or a really ice cold beer once in a while and that doesn't make me an alcoholic. The purpose of my blog was to get some guidance about raising kids in a town that apparently has a Meth problem. My brother has several kids that are teens and right at that age. Although my boy is only five, I worry about  this. He is my only child and since I don't have a whole heck of a lot of past child rearing experience, I was looking for some suggestions and comments on how to be prepared and work towards raising a kid that could walk away from the temptations that he will no doubt face when he is a teen. Meth seems to be a particularly dark drug, and the slide downhill seems to come rapidly.

What is our town doing about this Meth problem if we have one? Are we bringing in drug educators into the schools, are we preparing our children for this crisis? Can anyone out there answer this? Are we just ignoring the problem hoping for it to go away?

 

posted by jewels on Mar 21, 2007 at 10:44 AM

Christine~ i totally understand what you are saying...a glass of wine is fine for most people, hey even getting drunk once in a while is fine for a normal person.  But for someone who has ever fought an addiction....its different.  I am not alcoholic today and because i worked my steps and love myself, i can drink tomorrow.  It doesnt work that way.  It just doesnt.  I am not trying to take Sparks' inventory either.  It is just beyond my comprehension that she was involved in rehabs, and 12 step programs and now says its ok to drink.  It doesnt make any sense.

posted by mimi on Mar 21, 2007 at 10:52 AM
It is so hard to pinpoint where a drug problem begins. I don't know that educating in schools even helps. Did I pay attention to that? No. I read about it on my own and was provided material by my mom. When I think back to the kids I grew up with, the ones that stayed away from drugs: They were all active either in sports, music or hobbies. Many of them excelled in school, though not all. Religion was not always involved, but some were fairly religious. But nearly all of them had strong family ties. The were active with their families and close to their parents and siblings. Their parents were around as much as possible and were part of their lives. I think a combination of these things helps to keep kids away from drugs. I think the meth problem will always be there. The only things we can do for our kids is educate them ourselves (not rely on schools to do it), keep them active and happy, make sure they feel loved and cared for, and stay involved in their lives. That is the best chance we have.
posted by jewels on Mar 21, 2007 at 10:56 AM
Believe me Christine...there is definitely  meth problem in Tehachapi.  It is much bigger then most people think.  I dont know what the stats are but i know 1st hand its BIG.  I dont think the problem is being ignored, i just dont think school and community organizations know how to approach the subject.  Mimi is so right when she states that the parents have to be involved.
posted by beekeeper on Mar 21, 2007 at 11:02 AM
Growing up here, the saying went, "It's such a small town with nothing to do, so kids either have sex or do drugs." High teen pregnancy rate still around? So far as keeping kids from doing drugs... how can you? If you are super-religious, your kids could rebel and do the exact oppostie. If you are laid-back and not very disciplined as a parent, you could end up with a child you never expected: one who follows the rules and does no wrong. We all think we are smarter than we actually are when we are teenagers. Teens will make their own decisions. While it is most important, guidance isn't fool-proof. It can backfire.
posted by ChristineFroehlich on Mar 21, 2007 at 11:03 AM

Mimi and Jewels~

Thanks for the tips. Maybe watching some of those programs with a teen would help? Openly discussing the issue. I know it starts at home, I was just wondering if the schools are also addressing these issues.

 

 

 

posted by jme on Mar 21, 2007 at 12:09 PM
No, I didnt whip it up in the air. One day........I was thinking about the drug and alcohol problem that I beleive exists in this area and asked some of the local retailers what they sale on a daily basis (some tole me, some didnt)and multiplied that by 30 days.
posted by jme on Mar 21, 2007 at 12:12 PM
also, Im not saying the average resident spends $300.00 a month on alcohol. Im saying three hundred thousand dollars  ($300,000.00) of alcohol are sold here in this area each month.
posted by countygirl on Mar 21, 2007 at 01:52 PM

That really isn't that much when you consider the price of alcohol. Let's say that a twelve pack of beer costs$10.  That's only 30 people buying beer a day. How many people live in this town?  Now if we start calculating the price of hard liquor that number only goes down. Not much of a problem to me.

Plus, I'm sure some people like a little wine with dinner or something. Let's say 10 people buy a $10 bottle of wine for dinner. That's $100 right there. Again not a PROBLEM.

Pretty much anywhere there are people. You are going to have a "drinking problem" according you your standards.

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