xcite why were you wanting level4 to email you his name?

xcite, xcite, xcite....yeah I guess I will eat my illegal vegetables, and live in my illegal home and shop at places maintained by illegal labor.  My MIFF, are those illegal immigrants who come over to America, don't have to show any form of ID, SSN, and get free healthcare, free food, free money.  That's crap.  There is no other way to put it other than, that's crap.  Take away the illegal immigrants, give the poor, lazy American (white, black, brown, red, purple, green) people on welfare a choice between eating and taking the jobs that are left over after the illegals are deported and a lot of problems would be solved.

How many jobs do you think are being taken by illegal immigrants?  Because I have no idea how many.  I know that the American businesses are taking advantage of illegal immigrants by not offering the wage they would have to pay an American.  How much money do you think these farmers get?  You think they aren't making a killing off the illegal immigrants sweat?  They don't have to offer healthcare to these people, because these people don't have a say so.  Is that fair to them?  Are you in favor of this treatment of anyone?  I don't see how anyone could be in favor of such things. 

"You stating that you would turn in any public employee speaking such crap"  please make sure you know for certain that it is that employee who is talking the crap. 

Okay Shane....You have to admit the comment from paralegal was pretty funny, her using her expertise and knowledge in "figuring out" who Gube was.  It was all based on him using the term "LOL".  That's one of her statements that make you go hmmmm.

  I know by her "expertise and knowledge" if she is a paralegal or lawyer, or anyone that has any importance to the community, that I will stay clear of her.  I never thought or even cared who gube is, was, or wants to be.  I didn't think it was anyone I knew here posting.  Just the same ol gube.  Kind of like, Jim or trouble.  Someone trying to raise hairs.

theoneandonlyshane, I already told you I had no idea who it was Level 4 was indicating.  So why are you taking it personal?  What is strange to me is how you popped up when you thought someone was indicating you, hmmm.   I'm not part of any city group and wouldn't want to be a big fish in this small bowl.  The fact that you called out someone that you publicly supported (see Shane's past bloggs supporting Beckham) indicates to me that you are a flip flop non trustworthy person at best..  You can bet if it was proven to be you or anyone els in public service I would have turned them in. 

Olivia you prove my point.   The IRS commonly issues tax payer IDs to illegals to make sure that they get taxes.  If these Americans you speak of would have gotten up and went out to work in the first place the demand for labor would not have been there.   I dont know where you get your information that living life here as an illegal is a great big grab bag of give outs.  Olivia you prove my point further by this quote   "They don't have to offer healthcare to these people, because these people don't have a say so.  Is that fair to them?  Are you in favor of this treatment of anyone?  I don't see how anyone could be in favor of such things"  . So in on sentence you say they take free welfare healthcare and the next this?  which is it??????  Thank you for proving my point so well.  All my posts maintained the same thought that illegals are taken advantage of by industry and then hated by people who cant see or unwilling to see the big picture. 

Ok xcite, you win, you are right, I am wrong.  You didn't ask level4 for shane's name.  That was a figment of my imagination.  I think you are a strange person.  Are you Jim??? LOL.  I'm sure Shane is taking it personal because you were ready to turn him into his command staff after getting the info you wanted from level4.  

The illegal immigrants ARE taking free welfare, healthcare and food.  They don't have Social Security Numbers.  If I were to walk in to the Welfare Dept and apply for any kind of aid and not produce a SSN, I'd be shit out of luck.  They are also taking jobs away from American's who would work these jobs.  There are multiple categories of illegal immigrants, just as there are multiple categories of American's.  Some will work hard, some will put their hand out and want the freebies.  There are lazy American's and there are lazy illegal immigrants.  I didn't make up the term illegal immigrant.  I didn't make up the term DUI, or possession of controlled substance, or jaywalking, or shoplifting or any of these terms considered "illegal".  If I ran around doing illegal things, I'd expect to eventually be caught and suffer the consequences.  I think I'm done arguing this point with you.  I think you get off to reaction.   

xcite, if you wanted level4 to email you with Shane's name, how could level4 do that if your profile is not public?  I'm thinking you are level4.  Kind of calling the kettle black aren't you?  With my expertise and knowledge, I have figured this out.  LOL.  Or ...by using LOL, am I Gube?   You guys are a bunch of nuts.  xcite....you need to change you name....to booooring!! Crap, was that a personal attack? 

Flip Flop definition

strong support for someone or something then reversing.  Shane maybe you would make a great politician you've got the flip flop and attempted recovery down.  You should study more those you chose to support before very strong support is given.  Flip Flopper!  I wonder how many mistakes you will see  after you make them if you get city council?  Maybe you should just skip City and go for the presidency you and Hillary would be great together. 

Olivia it was a figment of your imagination i did not ask for SHANES name i asked for Gubes name whoever it might be.  You and Shane are the ones inserting his name there.  You know how you would be s.o.l. asking for welfare so would an illegal.  Did you speak to an illegal who told you they get it where does your info come from?  beside your imagination.

All i am trying to do is stick up for the downtrodden people who come here to work and make a better life.  They are pursuing the dream spelled out on the statue of liberty that was a good enough dream for your ancestors but not these people, why?  This mentality is just like whats going on now with development in Tehachapi everyone wants to shut it down once there home is built.  Pathetic inhumane and UN American. 

No, I didn't speak to an illegal.  I spoke to a legal hispanic....who was giggling when she told me all she had to do was go into the welfare department and no habla english, and bam.....she got her little green medi cal card.  She wanted the free freaking healthcare.  She claimed to have no ID, no birth certificate, she was pregnant and poor.  She came up to me and told me this and I would have and still would turn her in for it if I had any idea of what name she used or how she did it.

She not only works two jobs and her illegal immigrant husband is also working.  Who by the way got this girl pregnant, and is also cheating on her.  But...what the hell....she has spent thousands of her American dollars trying to get this man she loves legal.  Not only are these illegal immigrants "illegal"  they are praying on our hispanic american women in order to become legal. 

Maybe you are paralegal.  You kind of sound like her.  I know you are blogging under different names it's obvious by the comments you have made.  Like I said, my expertise and my knowledge.  I am well trained in this kind of behavior.  I have dealt with wackos, liars and morons for many years.

Olivia trust me i have no other names on here.  Your many years of dealing with "wackos, liars, and morons, has seemed to rubbed off just a bit on ya.   If sticking up for the poor, weak, and taken advantage of makes me those things I will wear the title with honor.   I still love you Olivia your just confused.  Shane are you trying to fool us or yourself "trying to be the middle guy" you are all over the place but definitely not in the middle.   Shane you really should run cause your exactly like the ones you complain about so you would be at home right in the middle of them.  You wanted to live by this blog but dont want the heat when that time comes?  Get ready please run for council.

God Bless America