The reason why so many people of color overwhelmingly occupy prisons is due to a mindset like yours a racist mind set which translates into laws.  If race has anything to do with crime then can you explain to me what happened in Oildale?  This is a white neighborhood with more crime and drugs than any area of Bakersfield.  If race has anything to do with it wouldn't this neighborhood be a wonderful place? 

Deficit going down how would you expect that to happen when we fund wars that our children will pay for forever with huge taxes and no social benefit.  So your saying that crime, corruption and gang violence did not exist here before illegals, get real.  The mafia existed before illegals, the KKK existed, anywhere where poor people have been so have gangs.  Wow i must have slept right thru the crime free America before illegals came.  You are using arguments that you have no real experience in.  You should never use any service I listed on previous post, But until then every time you shop you will know your supporting it. 

Tolerate the exploitation of my own people? that is why i am speaking out against this.  I hired a legal white contractor (he was great) who hired his crews not me, and most live in a house built the same way.   The men who built my house were not exploited in any way they were very happy to do the job and they did it without complaining or threat of lawsuit like so many American workers do.  I spoke with many of them and told them not to worry that most Americans don't feel hate towards them and that i appreciate them building my home.  You listed so many costs of illegals on your other post why don't you list the benefits? Will you not at least agree that you pay many times less for many things with illegals working here?

I guess I must have just grew up naive believing that one day our country would get past racism, i was naive that the American Dream was for all who came not just one race but for all.  I guess my Grandparents and parents were naive telling me how great this country was and that it welcomed all who come to seek a better life and work hard to contribute to society.  I guess your right that the America I was told to believe in was dead or never really existed at least not for my kind.   

Our taxes might remain the same but then by logic the deficit would be lower and my kids and grandkids wouldn't have to pay that debt.  How do illegals affect my life.  The hard working average laborer benefits my life.  This could also be done by people who are here legally.  What have they done to me?  They have brought crime, corruption, and gang violence here through their kids.  I have to be more careful where I go in the evening, I have to be more careful when I drive, I have to secure my home, no more leaving the doors unlocked, even in the daytime.

Explain to me why it is that the Latino culture makes up 35% of our population, yet is responsible for 85% of motor vehicle accidents and occupies 56% of our prison space?  The closer to the boarder the more these statistics change.  This is harm the illegals have brought to my life.

And, by the way, if illegals built your home, you are guilty of exploiting them.  Do you know how often large home builders "neglect" to pay their illegals knowing that the illegals are too intimidated to report the offense?  I have seen this happen.  I have seen hispanic people ripped off by hispanics who work in the mortgage industry.  In my observation the hispanics are guilty of exploiting their own people many more times than the whites.

So I would ask you, why do you tolerate exploitation of your own people?

I understand that getting a return does not mean you haven't payed taxes.  Its just the fact that if all "illegals" went away you would still pay the same tax and the government would still waste it.  Everyone acts like their personal money goes to "illegal" immigrant problems, what was the personal cost to you? do you know? How do these people affect you personally on your daily life?  What have they done to you?

Joty since you ask the services I am referring to are; every time i eat at a restaurant, every time I stay in a hotel, every time I go to my home that was built this year by many "illegal" workers, every time I go to the store to buy produce and other Items, every time I am thankful that people are fighting a war for us (yes many are "illegal")  I enjoy all these services.  And rather than biting the hand that feeds I would like to see some type of sensible program.   If your main arguemnt is "illegal means illegal" then what if overnight the government made them legal workers would that make you happy?  Is it not so much that you want a legal work system as you want them out of here, if so why is that?  Why is it that you feel one ethnic group of people have anymore right over this land than another? 

I was going to stay out of this, but xcite your math about tax returns is wrong.  No matter if someone gets a tax refund.  For every dollar of refund $4 has been spent.  The word is illegal.  No hate involved.  Just illegal.  Check out the cost to the taxpayer on my blog.  You haven't come back with any comments or facts to prove your position.

Olivia - joke for the day:  "I don't mind coming to work, but that 8 hour wait to go home is a b**ch!"  LOL

You don't need to be sorry for me xcite, really. As far as hating, you can't or won't get it through your thick skull the word ILLEGAL. I don't care how many people from whatever country come to this country as long as they do it by the book and don't drain the system. You just refuse to grasp that concept.

You keep repeating yourself about eating or enjoying illegal services. Just what services are you referring to? What do you enjoy?

Not that it is any of your business, no I don't get a tax return. It's been over 20 years since I've seen anything back. So I guess most of the taxes I pay are paying for someone else to get the health care I can't afford. You made a comment that you sit on more land and wealth than any of us...but I won't get into the hypocrisy there!

Happy Thanksgiving.

Joty Its really too bad that you hate anyone.  Sorry for you.  As for as you paying for anyone, REALLY how many of your dollars out of YOUR taxes do you think pays for anyone?  You probably get a tax return rather than pay for anything.  Get real and eat and enjoy your cheap illegal immigrant services.  And you should really try to stop hating its just hurting you.  

wow xcite you and followers are ruining our country. your blatant disregard for our laws is sickening. I see the tables turning as more ans more citizen's wake up to what is happening to our country.. We will Reach a point where we will demand that illegal immigration stops and the laws governing immigration will be carried out.

In response to "Isnt it funny that most of the 911 hijackers came here from the Canadian border..." posted by Xcite on Nov 19, 2007 at 08:04 PM

None of the 19 hijackers entered the U.S. from either Canada or Mexico, information confirmed by former U.S. attorney general John Ashcroft and the 9/11 Commission.

Welcome back Shane!!!!!

My brother-in-law was born and raised behind the Berlin Wall. When it fell, one of the first places he wanted to visit was the good ol' USA. He loved it, loved our country so much he wanted to live here. Because he is East German and raised to obey and fear authority, he refused to do anything illegal to get here.

He is allowed to visit a few times a year for short periods of time but was denied the privilage of living here. So yes, xcite, I hate illegal immigrants for more than the obvious reasons. I get tired of hearing how exploited they are. So what? They made the choice to come here and be exploited, and enjoy the freedom and the free services and education here that I pay for!

And I am sooooo tired of hearing the arguement about this country being "stolen". Oh, and go back to your history lessons.The Pilgrams were not the first white people to settle in America.

I normally would offer to sacrifice myself to your worth while cause but I'm looking at the calender  on the wall above the computer and well..... Olivia has made me a PMS calender and it says that i need to be an good behavior.

Damn, I don't  use my computer for a day and look what happen.  I missed a get together with countygirl and olivia and joty with the camera....I am starting to get jealous here!!! 

LOL, Colitas, it could have been fun girl....but I have a feeling "us girls" would all only be takers on the event.  We need to find "a giver in the bunch".  : )  NO BIGDOG, that doesn't mean you!!!