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TK - > the way I see it -> May Karma Smite You
May Karma Smite You

To begin, thank you Canine Creek for the shot / microchip mini-clinic.  I always enjoy dropping by and chatting with y'all and I will ask people to sign the petition for a shelter.  It's too bad the day took a tragic turn.  I am so sorry about that little dog who slipped away from the child in the parking lot.  It was a short run onto Tucker and underneath that vehicle.  And hey, driver who ran over the little dog, I wish many nasty things upon your head.  Did you know that even if it isn't your fault you are still required BY LAW to stop?  There were three children who watched as their little dog was scooped up from Tucker where you so callously took a life and fled.  So, poop-for-brains driver, you think you were lucky today that I did not get your license plate.  Since I cannot track you I will leave it to Karma to smite you.  Hopefully that will be worse than anything I could have done.

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posted by TK on Saturday, November 3, 2007 at 03:49 PM
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posted by caninecreek on Nov 3, 2007 at 08:15 PM
It was indeed a tragic event.  If only the family had seen fit to put the dog on a leash, it probably wouldn't have happened.   However, it is beyond me how someone could run down a dog, with the family standing on the sidewalk, and not stop to check on its welfare.  Fortunately the dog died instantly and did not suffer.  My employee and I dodged traffic to retrieve the little dog's body from the street for the family.  A very sad afternoon.
posted by rm6 on Nov 3, 2007 at 11:54 PM

What a terrible position to be in...the driver...damned if you stop and damned if you don't.

posted by gube on Nov 4, 2007 at 02:26 AM
Did the dog run into traffic, or did the driver hit the dog on purpose?.If it was the dogs fault that it died then why so angry with driver. you make him sound like a cold blooded killer like he meant to run over the dog.Weather he pulled over or not the dog would still be dead. Now if the driver did swerve to hit the dog then yes i could see where the anger would come from. I think that the owners of the dog should be at fault and if you want to be pissed off at someone then you should be angry with the owners allowing the dog to run off without being restrained in a public place. The owners to broke a law. A Law that got their dog killed. Should the owners  be charged with a crime ?  TK your thinking on this is askew.
posted by olivia on Nov 4, 2007 at 06:35 AM
Why wasn't the dog on a leash?  It isn't really that short of a run from canine creek to Tucker Rd.  If the dog normally runs off and doesn't come when called, the dog should have been on a leash.  I'm sure the driver didn't realize there were small children watching as he ran the dog over.  He maybe should have stopped.  I'm sure he would have avoided hitting the animal if he could have.  I think the parent is at fault here for allowing her children's pet to run off not being restrained by a leash.  Especially when there is a busy street nearby.  If the man had stopped?  He could have apologized for running over the little dog, and what good would that have done.  Talk about guilt?  Having to apologize to a group of young children for running over a pet, when in reality it could have been avoided by the owner?  I don't think this man is going to suffer from any Karma.  I think the parent needs to apologize to her children for not having the dog on a leash.  If it had been a 2 year old child, wouldn't the parent have a good hold of their hand.  If you cannot control your animal or child when near a busy street, they have no business being let to wander alone.
posted by gube on Nov 4, 2007 at 07:09 AM
Put the blame where it belongs, On the owner of the dog.
posted by Joty on Nov 4, 2007 at 10:27 AM

I witnessed a dog being hit by a speeding milk truck when I was just six years old - it wasn't even my dog, yet the memory and a bit of heartache has stayed with me for 50 years.

This was a terrible accident that probably could have been avoided, but no one should be deemed "guilty" or "blamed". They will punish themselves enough I'm sure. Yes, the dog should have been on a leash. Yes, the driver should have stopped.

What matters here are little kids who witnessed the death of their pet - a trauma that no one, especially a child should have to endure.

posted by DonMar on Nov 4, 2007 at 01:36 PM

Even if the driver was not at fault, the right thing to do would have been to stop and express his or her concern, however, maybe the driver does not have a conscience, or does not know right from wrong ~ Maybe when he was a child, someone ran over his dog, and just kept on driving . . . so he thinks it is okay . . .

Two seperate sets of adults (the parents and the driver who accidently hit the dog)  need to learn an important life-lesson:

What you do makes a difference, and you have to decide what kind of a difference you want to make.

These poor children have not only witnessed their family pet dying needlessly, right in front of them; the children were also were forced to see another terrible example, that of "responsible" adults, being incredibly thoughtless in their collective actions. 

posted by luvmy2girls on Nov 4, 2007 at 06:30 PM

What an awful event to happen for all parties involved. I have to agree whole heartedly with what DonMar said. Both sets of adults set bad examples. I feel so sad for the children who know longer have their beloved dog and have to live with the memory of seeing what happened.

DonMar- I love that saying. Do you mind if I borrow it?

 

posted by maggies42 on Nov 4, 2007 at 07:20 PM

Caninecreek wrote :   " My employee and I dodged traffic to retrieve the little dog's body from the street for the family"

It's very possible that by trying to stop, the driver may have caused an accident .     I don't like  to think the worst of people without knowing all of the facts so I believe that the person who hit the dog is suffering along with everyone else.  This is a sad situation for all but let's hope a lesson was learned.

 

posted by TK on Nov 5, 2007 at 12:06 AM

I am amazed at the numbers of people who are okay with thumbing their noses at the law.  If you damage someone's property then you are obliged by our California Vehicle Code to stop and make an attempt to find the owner.  It does not matter if you were at fault or not.  Brush up on your driving rules.  The driver damaged another person's property and fled the scene.  Hitting the dog was not a crime but fleeing was!  This is no different than sideswiping another car and fleeing the scene.  Even if the car was illegally parked and you were not at fault the law says you must stop. 

Yes, the dog should have been on a better lead.  Yes, the family should have had control over the dog.  Yes, a loose dog is in violation of Kern County ordinance.  Yes, the family was trying to do the right thing by getting their dogs vaccinated.  Yes, there was a language barrier.  Yes, they probably thought the dogs would be okay because they're so good at home.  None of this excuses the driver who killed the dog and fled the scene.  All the driver had to do was pull over and say "I'm sorry". 

posted by rm6 on Nov 5, 2007 at 01:34 AM

Yea, and if you hit a raccoon (or any wild animal) and injure it but not kill it, the law says you must stop and call the aspca, but honestly, who is going to do that?

Would you like to face three little kids who just saw their dog get run over and killed? I know I wouldn't. I don't think that you can compare hitting a dog to hitting a car. If the dog was small enough the driver might not have even known he/she had hit it. It's not like that dog was one of the kids. The dog is dead and it isn't coming back, if I was one of those children, there wouldn't be anything that the driver could say or do that would make me feel any better. Do you wish many nasty things on this driver because the law was broken or because a dog was killed? Unless the driver intentionally swerved to hit the dog, I don't see why a bunch of bad things should happen to him or her.

TK do you follow the law to the letter all the time? Do you make rolling stops at stop signs? Do you speed? Because everytime you do, you're "thumbing your nose at the law." My point being that no one follows the "insignificant" laws when they think that they can get away with it. It might be honorable to do what is right, but doing what is easier is usually more rewarding.

So if you'd have gotten the lp #, would you have been an a-hole and reported the driver and caused even more difficulties or would you have minded your own business while still feeling sorry that the unfortunate event even happened?

posted by olivia on Nov 5, 2007 at 04:15 AM
While I do feel bad for the kids.  Shame on mom.  How many dogs and cats are running wild.  They run across the street and get hit by a car.  You see dead dogs and cats on the side of road all the time.  What happened???  Did this man smile and wave at the kids while he ran over their poor dog?  How do we know that he knew these kids were even watching.  I'm going to give the driver the benefit of doubt here and say, he probably thought he just hit another stray animal. It's sad and I'm hoping mom is taking responsibility for what happened to her children's pet.
posted by bigdog on Nov 5, 2007 at 06:57 AM

TK why did you think the driver of the car owes the children an apology.You said that all the driver had to do was pull over and say I' m sorry. Why ? If all the driver was doing was driving down the road minding his own business and a dog runs out onto the road and gets hit then why would the driver need to apologize for something that was not his fault. Should the driver have stopped  ? did he know he hit a the dog ? Should the dog owners had the dog restrained ? Should canine creek require all dogs to be restrained when entering or leaving their store ? Whos at fault ?

posted by caninecreek on Nov 5, 2007 at 08:09 AM

As clarification, Canine Creek does require all pets to be in carriers, on tie-downs in the tubs, or on leash at all times while in the store.  The family was waiting outside, on the building's front porch, for their turn to see the vet when the incident occurred.  We make every effort to encourage responsible pet ownership (which includes use of a leash), but unfortunately we can't control what people do outside our store.  If my staff had seen the dog running loose in the parking lot, we would have asked them to leash the dog.  We loan leashes for use on the property if owners don't have one.  It still amazes me how many dog owners in Tehachapi don't even OWN one.  This was a preventable accident and, hopefully, one that all involved will learn from.

posted by bigdog on Nov 5, 2007 at 08:36 AM

Thanks Canine creek  for the clarification and explanation of what happened. I have heard nothing but good things said about canine creek.  Other local businesses could benefit from your example. This was a bad deal and accidents happen. There is a lesson to be learned.

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