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TK - > the way I see it -> May Karma Smite You
May Karma Smite You

To begin, thank you Canine Creek for the shot / microchip mini-clinic.  I always enjoy dropping by and chatting with y'all and I will ask people to sign the petition for a shelter.  It's too bad the day took a tragic turn.  I am so sorry about that little dog who slipped away from the child in the parking lot.  It was a short run onto Tucker and underneath that vehicle.  And hey, driver who ran over the little dog, I wish many nasty things upon your head.  Did you know that even if it isn't your fault you are still required BY LAW to stop?  There were three children who watched as their little dog was scooped up from Tucker where you so callously took a life and fled.  So, poop-for-brains driver, you think you were lucky today that I did not get your license plate.  Since I cannot track you I will leave it to Karma to smite you.  Hopefully that will be worse than anything I could have done.

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posted by TK on Saturday, November 3, 2007 at 03:49 PM
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posted by ChristineFroehlich on Nov 5, 2007 at 02:07 PM

I would feel horrible if I ran over any animal, and YES, I would STOP. It's the right thing to do. If you hit an animal on the road you are required to stop. Suppose that animal is still alive and could be saved, or is suffering and needs to be put out of its misery?

We are responsible for our actions and we are supposed to be the guardians of animals on this earthDoes the fact that it might be a stray okay? How can anyone justify hitting an animal and just keep going? What is wrong with you people?

I also think the parents were wrong for not having the dog on a leash, but 2 wrongs do not make a right, here, folks.

posted by DonMar on Nov 5, 2007 at 04:21 PM

Having a conscience is very important in life; it is the moral compass that guides us to do the right thing.   Those responding have all read the facts on this topic, however, it is appaling that a few diehards think it is okay to run over a dog and simply drive away.  If you leave the grieving children out of the equation, what you still have is some thoughtless, spineless coward who hit and split; he/she killed a dog without even bothering to see if the innocent animal was still alive . . .  

Step up to the plate, be a man, get a back-bone, or substitute any/all the other metaphors you choose so you can remotely comprehend:  The bottom line is, we are individually responsible for our actions.  

What you do makes a difference and you have to decide what type of difference you want to make.

 

Look out, Bambi and Thumper:  Run for your lives; it is open season according to a few diehards.

posted by TK on Nov 5, 2007 at 08:29 PM
Thank you Christine and DonMar.  I was feeling morally isolated.  Let me clarify something.  The dog had been restrained on a rope but the it came loose.  Dogs have been known to slip out of collars, gee, I've even had it happen to me.   
posted by olivia on Nov 5, 2007 at 08:46 PM
Well TK, that was a little something that should have been clarified, like.... many comments ago.  So the dog was on a leash?  He slipped out of the rope?  My problem all along has been you wanting to "smite" this man with bad karma.  The whole situation seemed to be ugly to me.  Both sides of it.
posted by TK on Nov 7, 2007 at 01:07 PM

Well, um, olivia I like did state that the dog should have been on "a better lead" like, um, eight comments prior.  That indicates very clearly that the dog was on some type of lead.

And bigdog, the expression "I'm sorry" is a common one used to express sympathy to another human being.  I have told a person "I'm sorry" when I heard they were very ill, even though I did not cause the illness.  I have also heard other civilized people use the expression when hearing about a misfortune. 

I was angry at the callous disregard one person demonstrated one day last week so I wrote this blog when I got home.  I have been disturbed at the number of people who live here that share that disregard of life and the law.  The anger from people who think the actions of that driver were acceptable has been a real eye-opener to me.   

posted by olivia on Nov 7, 2007 at 01:17 PM
Yikes  : {
posted by LoriMorales on Nov 7, 2007 at 01:45 PM

I'm trying to imagine the type of individual who would run over an animal and just keep going?  Don't even think someone would not be aware.  I ran over a little squirrel (by accident) and you get a thump, thump noise.  I stopped and moved his little body to the side of the road ..... at a minimum to keep someone else from swerving or running over him again.

I mean, you don't pull over to see if you can help?  You don't pull over and see if the animal can be saved?  You don't call animal control if you're out on a country road?  You don't pull the dead body to the side of the road?  The driver was a coward.  You don't know if you can help unless you stop.  He decided to keep going because he didn't want to stop (or she .... don't want to assume here) and take any responsibility.  We've all discussed that topic before. 

Geez - for my all my senses (moral, common), you pull over and see what can be done.  Period.  Sorry bigdog, we part company on this one - poor little doggie, poor little kids.  My heart goes out to them. 

posted by Colitas on Nov 7, 2007 at 02:20 PM
Yes, it is sad this had happen.  Accidents occur.  But as one other person pointed out....it is the law to stop.  If you hit any "personal property" you are accountable.  I learned this at the ripe old age of 18.  I was prosecuted in criminal court for hitting a grape vine, and leaving the scene.  I left my car, it was a weekend, went to the farmer and paid restitution, $250 for one grape vine, the next day before I even realized I had been charged with a crime, and I was still prosecuted for a hit and run because it was personal property.  When I went to get my car the next morning with AAA, it had already been towed and impounded.  I left it because it was stuck in the mud.  I spent  $160 to get my car out.  I still was in criminal court after I went to the police station and told my story, got a written letter from the farmer and produced that but it didn't matter.  I hit personal property and left the scene.  The judge did throw it out and said the cop was overzealous, but for a 18 year old kid that thought they were doing right it was real scary being in criminal court.  I am not sure if it is still the same, the the law use to be that dogs were personal property but cats were not.  You need to stop and look for a tag to report it.  Do I think this person who hit the dog is Hitler resurrected, no.  But it is the law.
posted by Smokey on Nov 7, 2007 at 03:10 PM

"spineless coward who hit and split; he/she killed a dog without even bothering to see if the innocent animal was still alive . . . " Don't you think you are being a little harsh?

I don't think you can say for sure if he/she even knew they had ran a dog over..no-one knows that but them. Sure, we all know when we hit something but for all any of us know the driver could have heard a noise over thier music and looked back and never realized it was an animal they hit.

Would you have felt better if the driver pulled over to berate the owner infront of the children for almost causing an accident and for not properly restraining the animal?

It's unfortunate, yeah....sad, for sure...but why is the driver that was driving innocently down the road minding their own business being held liable. Sure, they didn't follow the law to a 'T'. . most of us don't. (Do you always drive the speed limit? I doubt it. ) They could have been completely unaware.

And I for one, am not going to stand in the road and drag a cute little dead squirrel to the side of the road. I am suprised that anyone does.

posted by bigdog on Nov 7, 2007 at 03:50 PM

Lori ..for the record if I hit a dog I would stop.

posted by rm6 on Nov 7, 2007 at 03:50 PM

Seriously, ground squirrels (the ones around Tehachapi) are nasty disease carrying varmits, if I hit one I'd be more concerned about the mess it made on my tire.

I for one would rather (if put in this sad situation) run over someone else's dog than cause a traffic accident. The driver didn't stop, BFD, life goes on. I wish people would mind their own business and worry about sustaining their own morals and using them to judge their own actions, not someone else's.

Like I said before, the driver might not've been aware that they hit the dog...talking on the phone, listening to music...

posted by bigdog on Nov 7, 2007 at 03:56 PM
Hell if I see a dead squirrel on the road I'll run over it again just for the hell of it.
posted by olivia on Nov 7, 2007 at 04:53 PM

How about skunks, if I hit a skunk am I required to pull it's dead little stinky body off the road or check to see if it is seriously injured?  As I've said before, why would we wish this man nasty things and bad karma?  I understand that this was a horrible thing to watch.  I've seen animals get hit, I've hit animals, it's never a pleasant experience.  I've hit two dogs in my lifetime.  One I stopped and started to get out, I thought for sure I killed it, as soon as I opened my door, he jumped up and took off running.  Another little dog ran out in front of me driving through a neighborhood, again I stopped and the elderly owners were very understanding and sorry for me.  I'm not stopping for squirrels, raccoons, skunks, rabbits, they have diseases.  

So TK, now that a few days have passed, do you think of this guy as just an a**hole, or are you still wishing nasty things on his head and bad karma?    

posted by TK on Nov 7, 2007 at 09:50 PM
I will not let the driver off the hook.  The dog getting loose was an accident.  The dog getting hit was an accident.  Fleeing the scene was deliberate.
posted by scottso on Nov 8, 2007 at 12:08 AM
The driver didn't stop because they were a) uninsured, b) illegal alien, or c) was more worried about their hide than the feelings of the kids.  Its really that simple.  While I hate to be a party pooper, the person that didn't stop is not feeling any remorse whatsoever.  In fact they are probably filled with glee that they got away with it sad to say.  Things like this is why I like to hope there is such a thing as karma.  Eventually it will catch up with them hopefully. :/
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