Maybe I spoke too soon and you did understand my post. Sorry I kinda just read the first few lines of yours and jumped into a response.  I didn't say she would remove the troops because she's a woman. I personally think that is what she will do.  I highly believe in equality between sexes. Sadly most other countries havn't quite caught up to us yet.

Call it what you will geneder terrorism or not, I personally think a woman as president right now with some of the rocky relationships we have with other countries is a risk.  That is all I am saying.

Thanks for responding countygirl.  See, my patriot friend, maybe you should run!

Gosh, the rhetoric is seeping up from the dump - and the election is such a long way off.  Can anyone just sit back and listen some more?  It is soooo very early and really big mistakes are made in the grueling race to the White House.  Keep your eyes open and your senses clear.  Tighten your seat belt because we are in for a bumpy ride.

The blog reading on this subject would have been much more interesting if female and muslin bigotry didn't surface with such force.  It is terribly disappointing. 

Since when did we elect our officials based on what other nations thought?  Under that condition, how could George W. ever had made it?  He is considered a "cowbay"( and that was not a compliment) by most of the world, including the majority of Americans.

Before John F. Kennedy was elected President, there was a huge backlash about him being Catholic.  Hard to imagine today, considering we currently have an Evangelical as President.  Religion should not enter the equation - at all.

So, tehachapiman, I'm with you.  I'm watching Barack Obama and he looks very good -  love his common sense approach.  And, for whoever thinks that only a "woman" will pull us out of Iraq, pay close attention because nearly ever candidate is talking about the war as a mistake, that we need a polical, not a military,  solution, that our presence in Iraq is causing the upscaled violence, etc.  I continue to follow Hilary Clinton because I think she is one very smart woman.  She has proven herself over and over again.  A liar?  About what? No details are available but people will jump on the wagon anyway.   I won't forget her proposal for a nation wide health plan - she got beaten up so bad.  And now - what do we have?  A big fat mess with all the politians once again running on a platform including an improved national health care program.  Should have listened to her 12 years ago.

Hilary is a power hungry opportunist.............................

Obama is subliminally using race as his "in". He calls himself black because it benefits him, however he's half white and raised in a white household.

Neither has the background nor experience to qualify them for the office.

I refuse to consider either as a viable candidate.

Well, this is all so very interesting.  TehachapiManMan (are there two of you?),your comments are, for me, very insightful.  Thank you.

We had Golda Meir (hope that spelling is correct) and Margaret Thasher in other countries.  We have Condi Rice here.  Very powerful women and no one went crazy in the Muslim world.  The Muslims are angry at our politics - that would be our politics for over 20 years and we can blame both Democrats and Republicans.  George W. put the cherry on top of the icing that was on top of the cake which represents our "we know best"attitude we think we have the right to  drive over other countries.  So a woman president doesn't worry me at all.  My ONLY concern with Hilary is the one expressed by a couple other writers here - she'll get pulled under by the past when the Republicans do their standard smear campaign.  It's amazing but lots of people fall for it.

Politicians as liars - where's the news there?  Geffen's quote actually indicates that "all politicians lie" and then followed up with "the Clintons are good at it."  If we accept his comment about the Clintons, then we will have the accept his comment about politicians.  Now, an exercise in logic .... if we are accepting that all politicians lie then wouldn't it be a good idea to have one that is good at it?  My summation here  would be to ignore unsubstantiated comments by everyone who makes them.  Lots of people take pot shots because they have an ax to grind.

Who's old enough to remember the chatter about John F. Kennedy being a Catholic?  My, my there was such a fuss.  It just  fizzled away after his election.  So a Muslim president doesn't worry me at all.

Our next president will be elected by campaigning on the platform of ending our invasion of Iraq.  The facts are in and they say this war can NEVER be won militarily.  The Iraqi Study group said so, the Iraqi's, both civilians and leaders, are saying so, our military leaders are saying so.  Only Bush and his yes (wo)men are trying to fit their strategy of escalation into Iraq.  It just doesn't fit and the majority of people who actually vote, also say so.

Now, as for you GregL - you say "ho hum" and then indicate you aren't gonna vote.  So - who's listening to you?  Go away!

Hey there GregL - I quote "I don't really care WHO becomes president."  That's where I got that crazy idea that you didn't care - I wasn't wound up - it  was meant to be funny.  I missed the mark.

I extrapolated (apparently, incorrectly)  that you don't care enough to vote.  Sorry ........ please continue  to express your ideas and opinions.  It's all good - no worries ........

Better now?