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Development in Cummings Valley
I've received tentative information regarding development on the Cummings Valley sod farms plus acreage along Banducci, south of the current Grimm Way farm land. First, apparently Grimm Way has purchased some land west of Banducci, just off Pellisier. It is rumor at the moment, but the rumor is coming from a pretty good source: Grimm Way wants to construct several (7 to 10) 5,000 square foot "green houses" and that will adhere to the current agricultural zoning so nothing can be done about it. This is a huge advantage because watering outdoor vegetables takes more water than greenhouse vegetables. Water from the Cummings Valley is very expensive. I've seen some of these industrial sized green houses down near San Diego and they look like industrial parks. How ugly will that be? Second, and this is no rumor but right from the lips of one of the sod farm owners: he is actively looking to sell his land to developers out of Orange and Los Angeles Counties. If that happens, we can look forward to a KB-like development on that land. A large developer like KB will sail through zoning obstacles with ease. I'm sure the Cummings Valley Protection Agency is still celebrating their victory over having Stallion Springs allow this area to be annexed into the community with CC&Rs that Stallion Springs would have some control over. KB homes is what we may get because so many people bought into the distortions and down right lies distributed by the Cummings Valley Protection Agency. We could have gotten a development that was conducive to the area and added value to Stallion Springs - and guaranteed good water quality and improved/updated sewage treatment facilities. I'll never understand these arguments: 1) we got land and built homes and we will now lobby so you can't get yours, 2) the purposed development will be larger then the current Stallion Springs. So what? Other current surrounding areas are larger: how has that effected Stallion Springs? Exactly, it hasn't. 3) who will buy a home in the "glare of prison lights." Everyone think about how illogical this is. How would that glare be any different or any less a disadvantage to 20 acre "agricultural" homesites? That is so dumb on so many levels that I'll just let each reader decide which argument against this logic they like best. 4) My favorite nonsensical reason for arguing against the sod farm owner's proposal .... those evil "godzillas" just want to get rich. Honestly - that was a much tauted argument. So, in that same light, we should all take the stand that the President of the Cummings Valley Protective Agency, Chuck McCullough, has too much money and because of that, he should not be allowed to take over two years to get no-where on his winery near the corner of 202 and Cummings Valley Road. How idiotic is that? I do wonder how he will get water up the hill from the valley aquifers - maybe the planting delay is because he has figured this will be a problem with only one, very expensive solution. For many, many, many months now, what he has produced for our viewing pleasure is bare land with empty posts sticking up. Not one green thing in sight. Gee - thanks Chuckie. 41 comments from 12 users
posted by
ragmop
on Jan 31, 2008 at 08:21 PM
Don't you start bashing Mr. McCullough... he is the hardest working man in Tehachapi. You have to do a lot of preparation to have a productive vineyard.. he is out there in all kinds of weather keeping the weeds under control, getting his vineyard set up and ready for planting. You can't just poke holes in the ground and plant a vineyard in 24 hours... give the man a break and watch what happens in the next year. posted by
Washburn
on Feb 1, 2008 at 09:22 AM
ragmop - Why not answer the points I made regarding the propaganda produced by Chuckie? I'm watching his work and nothing is happening. Of course he's pulling weeds - that's what grows in dirt when nothing else is planted. Duh ..... He's hard at work all right ---- spreading BS about 20 acre plots with junk cars, trailer homes and metal building barns as a great alternative to a nice development. And let us not forget his statements about water not being an issue because, be assured, when 70 each, 20 acre home sites dig wells, his wasteland will never get the quality water required and that "winery" cannot survive - should it ever start in the first place. Either that or he will spend his remaining years pulling weeds from the dirt. And Stallion Springs will have water shortages too. We currently have a "gentlemen's agreement" with the sod farms because during August & September, SS gets 95% of their water from the valley aquifer and the sod farms shut down their wells near ours - otherwise we pump water too high in nitrates. When the sod farms sell out to a big developer from Orange County - what will the Cummings Valley look like? Will KB consider Chuckie's dirt or the needs of Stallion Springs? You are being spoon fed BS from that nice man - and his reasons are self serving. Don't take my word for it. Do some research instead of going, lamb-like to slaughter. Talk to LAFCO about what is required to rezone land. And stop listening to junk about Ashburn not signing off on rezoning - HE'S a POLITICIAN. He'll agree to what the monied lobbyists pay for. Get the statistics from the CSD about where SS gets their water in high usage seasons. Gee - call one of the sod farms and pretend you want to buy their land for development purposes and see if they give you a price? It is sooooooo dumb to think that several dozen smart "farmers" are going to buy that land and produce boutique products. It is NOT natural farm land. That land requires lots and lots and lots ---- and then even more --- water to produce anything. A farmer would have to charge $5.00 for a tomato just to cover his costs and there will be no buyers. Who's gonna do that? You? posted by
states
on Feb 1, 2008 at 09:27 AM
This guy sounds like blendonw? posted by
scottso
on Feb 1, 2008 at 09:13 PM
Mind you I know nothing about any of this, or even Mr. McCullough, but I can tell you that to grow grapes for wine requires a lot of time. You don't just throw some seeds in the ground and run around with your watering can. You generally prepare the land a year before you even plan to plant to make sure the soil PH is what it should be, the fertility is what it should be, etc. You are growing these grapes as a business, not as your flower garden. You need to test out the land to see if you need to take corrective measures in order to give your grapes the best environment to grow. Then after that you generally plant grape vines that have already sprouted. And you have to constantly check to make sure they are ok -- enough water, enough or not too much sun, pray the temperatures are good, etc. I could go on and on but the point is that if you don't see grapes growing 12 months from now thats not an abnormal thing and certainly nothing to try to use in whatever argument you are trying to make. It only shows ignorance and a reluctance to type two words into google -- "growing grapes." Which doesn't help whatever the latest diatribe around here is. posted by
jen
on Feb 2, 2008 at 11:16 AM
I wish that Ronald Reagan was still the governor. He was so handsome. posted by
ragmop
on Feb 2, 2008 at 11:57 AM
scottso: Thank you. That was the point I was trying to make about Mr. McCullough's vineyard. It takes a lot of preparation time, soil amendments, pre-emergence weed abatement, fencing, grape-stakes, irrigation infrastructure, etc. We should all be happy that this man bought that land for agricultural use and we will have something pleasant to look at as we drive in Cummings Valley, rather than building spec houses all over the place to make a quick buck. Mr. McCullough works out there constantly, tending to his own business and we should applaud his efforts. posted by
ragmop
on Feb 2, 2008 at 12:03 PM
jen: I hate to be the one to break the news, but Ronald Reagan passed away. He can't come back and be governor, but I agree with you that he was one handsome man. And so tall! posted by
jen
on Feb 2, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Isn't it sad? I couldn't believe it when he left us. America will never be the same. And went poor Nancy passed away, it just broke my heart. She loved him so. posted by
Washburn
on Feb 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM
It is relatively well known information that beautiful vineyards take many, many, many years to become that way. So, I guess we can all agree: McCullough's "winery" will look sorrowful for many, many, many years. Again, let's all give our thanks to that nice old man who works so hard. Anyone up to addressing the water issue? What does your imagination come up with when you see the sod farms cut up into 20 "agricultural" acres? Boutique farms, giant trailer park with no restrictions, industrial sized/concrete "greenhouses?" Or, if the current owners find a developer, KB homes could be our fate. Come on - if you're gonna participate, then do so. If you're able to link Ronald Reagan with the subject, then I'd like to read that. Otherwise, I don't understand why you would waste your time. The Tehachapi News editor has information me that some of the facts detailed in my original blog are incorrect. I know my facts are correct. My suppositions and extrapolations are just that. We all get to use our minds that way. And, of course, my opinions can be mine under any and all circumstances. I have asked contributors to this site to go get the information for themselves. I believe the CVPA has fully documented through their publications and flyers that they have their own agenda and feel no remorse about putting out incorrect information. Some data stuffed in my mail box were flat out lies. So, if you use the CVPA as a source, please ...... check out everything you hear from any one of the members. If they tell you the time - check it out. Which is my other point about that nice old, hard working man ..... he is the President of the CVPA and responsible for distributing propaganda for his own selfish reasons. One of which is he needs someone to share the water expenses for his vines. posted by
ragmop
on Feb 2, 2008 at 12:58 PM
jen: washburn is touchy about his blog so we need to talk about ronald reagan somewhere else, OK dear? posted by
jen
on Feb 2, 2008 at 01:19 PM
I just thought he was such a good govenor and also a good president. (AND he was so handsome, wasn't he?) I wasn't trying to get anyone upset. posted by
jen
on Feb 2, 2008 at 01:21 PM
If I remember correctly, I think they named a battle ship after him. If that is true, I hope they painted it red, because that was Nancy's favorite color. Didn't she have the prettiest dresses, and shoes to match!!!!!!!!!! posted by
ragmop
on Feb 2, 2008 at 01:29 PM
jen: yes, he was a good governor and a good president and they named a ship after him but they didn't paint it red because that would be a bad color for a ship that went into battle. You don't want your battleship glowing red on a blue ocean because the enemy could see it and try to sink it. While we're on the subject, Mrs. Reagan is still alive. At least I haven't heard of her passing, so you can be glad about that. She had a lot of nice clothes and shoes; being First Lady was a big role for her and she had to look her best on every occasion. Now, we need to leave Mr. Washburn's blog alone and talk about Ronald and Nancy somewhere else, because Mr. Washburn wants his blog to only represent his views of Cummings Valley. OK, dear? posted by
jen
on Feb 2, 2008 at 01:38 PM
I am sorry to be such a pest. I don't know how to do this. I keep clicking on to the comment part. Am I doing things wrong, I hope I don't get in trouble for being on peoples computers in the wrong place. posted by
jen
on Feb 2, 2008 at 01:40 PM
I just was thinking how proud Nancy would be to have on a red dress, red shoes, and to be on a red ship named after her beloved husband. I don't know why I thought she had passed. I must be confused. |