ragmop -  You asked a question.  I answered it.  My neighbor is a FRIEND of McCullough's and helps out at the winery.   I don't know why they consider him a poor old man  - as his friends.  Why would I dig into what I thought was an insult of my neighbor's friend? 

I encourage you - and anyone else with time on their hands - to work at bringing a winery to the corner of Cummings Valley Road and the 202.  This winery is Chuck's way of saying "boutique" farming can be accomplished in the valley.  He is very likely wrong.  

I thank you again for correcting any of my spelling errors.  

You may at any time address the subject and the points I have made.  Or, of course, you may continue to correct spelling errors.  I do it myself on occasion.  The spelling grievances here are usually so outrageous that I don't bother.  Since you obviously pay attention to such things,  you may agree with me - even if you won't want to align yourself with any of my opinions.

So, to bring this back around, my issue with The Cummings Valley Protection Agency, under the leadership of Chuck McCullough, is that they misled the residents of Stallion Springs regarding water availability in the valley.  They lied about the the members of the board and depicted the sod farms owners as greedy, irresponsible land owners.  It is my opinion that this misrepresentation will turn out poorly for everyone living in and around the Cummings Valley.  That would include me - so it is a pet peeve of mine. 

Do you have a point regarding this?  How 'bout I agree that Chuck could be hard working? I don't know the man personally.  So, I'll give that one to you.  On subject,  I have spoken with LAFCO associates, Don Maben's office, our general manager, the CVPA, the Tehachapi Water District and countless others living and working in this area.  I have a point of view that has grown with each piece of information received.  Anything you can add, even spelling corrections, are welcome.

washburn posted:    "I would think that the individuals who refer to him as that "poor old man" should be asked why they consider him that way?  That is kinda insulting.  Is an old man automatically to be considered poor?  I think that's a terrible dicpiction."     

Then she posted:   "As as aside:  a member of the CVPA, my neighbor, called him "a poor old man" in a conversation."

So my comment is:   washburn, you need to be asking your neighbor why they consider him as a 'poor old man' and why they insulted him in that way.   Nobody on this blog ever addressed Mr. McCullough as a 'poor old man'. 

BTW.. as an ex-school teacher, if you are such a stickler for spelling.... try "depiction" instead of 'dicpiction'.

If if was your neighbor who called him a 'poor old man' then why do you refer to that on this blog?   FYI - I have personally observed Mr. McCullough in the flesh out working on his vineyard.   He probably does have help and people who support him.  Your neighbor obviously has some kind of problem with him..  why doesn't your neighbor blog for him/herself?  

Ragmop - what brought you back here?  Did you need additional information regarding the Reagans?  OK then - yes, Ronald is dead and yes, Nancy wore a lot of red. 

As as aside:  a member of the CVPA, my neighbor, called him "a poor old man" in a conversation.  You called him the hardest working man in Tehachapi.  WOW - slight exaggeration since he doesn't actually "work."   According to my neighbor, Chuck is not running the farm.  He has CVPA members volunteering work and has turned the whole mess over to his son(s).

washburn, please cite who referred to Mr. McCullough as a "poor old man" on this blog.  I looked back and saw absolutely no reference to him in this way.  

Mondolin - what attack did you read?  There was information provided and a couple questions asked.  I re-read and didn't see an attack. 

I would think that the individuals who refer to him as that "poor old man" should be asked why they consider him that way?  That is kinda insulting.  Is an old man automatically to be considered poor?  I think that's a terrible dicpiction. 

Now, don't get confused, I was NOT the one who called Mr. McCullough a poor old man. 

Since the First Ground Rule says "no...personal attacks,"  what are Washburn's comments if not a personal attack of Chuck McCollough?

TN Editor:  Sincerely waiting for that update correcting all the facts I have wrong.  Will that be soon?

P6, you need to listen to the other folks here & check your facts before posting. Clinton did not say what you claim, and a quick google search would have saved you some embarrassment.

"Summary: An Investors' Business Daily editorial falsely asserted that "Bill Clinton says we must slow the economy to save the earth." In fact, Clinton said in the January 30 speech to which the editorial referred that "rich" countries could take that approach, but then he stated why he thought it wouldn't work and asserted that the "only way" to fight global warming is to prove that doing so "is good economics."

http://mediamatters.org/ite...

I'm posting this more for the other folks who participate here, because I'm sure you're not interested in the truth. A lie can fly around the world before the truth ever gets its boots on.

MMMMMMMMM....SPEAK THE TRUTH WELL VADER DOES....MMMMHMMMM....THAT REGAN WAS A GREAT PRESIDENT ONLY MORONS BELIEVE........MMMMMM......NICE HAIR HE HAD THOUGH..........AND THE WORD "NANCY" HE SAID A LOT......MMMMMM.........COCANE TOOO MUCH THAY DID DURING THE 80'S....... AND BANDS LIKE THE CLASH TOOO MUCH THAY LISTEND TOO.......MMMMMM.......RUIN THE BODY STYLE OF THE CAMARO AND CORVETTE THAY DID VERY WELL.......WORTHLESS AND NAIEVE THAY WERE DURING THE 80'S, BUT MILITARY SPENDING THAY DID VARY WELL........MMMMMMMM........STAR WARS REGAN LIKED VERY MUCH.........MMMMMMM......FOR THIS I AM VERY FORTUNATE AS I WAS IN NEED OF A JOB........MMMMMM.......AND HIRING BEINGS 500 YEARS OLD WHO ARE.....DOES NOT A LOT HAPPEN..........MMMMMMM...........

Vadar you speak the truth well. Only MORONS believe that Reagan was a great President.

Ok P6 you're obviously drinking the Reagan Kool Aid, so I won't take anything you have to write seriously.  What you wrote about Clinton letting Osama take power in Afghanistan is Historically incorrect and wrong.  Reagan's administration is THE REASON Osama Bin Laden is a hero in the radical Muslim world!  The Reagan Administration considered Osama Bin Laden a PATRIOT!  The Reagan Administration gave money and weapons, and training to Osama Bin Laden!  Do I really need to go on?  Osama Bin Laden didn't declare Jihad on the U.S. until the first Bush established Military Bases in Saudi Arabia.  Know your facts P6, NOT Propaganda!  By the way every presidential administration since world war 2 is responsible in one way or the other for the current state we're in, in regards to global terrorism.  I can write a 20 page dissertation on how Reagan's domestic policy ruined inner cities and was responsible for the rise in Gang Violence and Drug Trafficing.  You did hear about the Iran / Contra scandal didn't you P6?  If you understand that Scandal and it's effect on U.S. Policy Foreign and Domestic you would not be a Reagan fan I Guarantee YOU!

Reganism did nothing but make the rich richer and tax the middleclass!  He was one of the downfalls of society!  But not as bad as the Bushs'.....Jen, who are you really?  What is your "other, real name"?  You are just an alias!!!!

Well said Vader...now I think I will have a glass of Merlot.

Outside of the Iran / Contra affair his negligence of our inner cities, ignoring the crack epidemic, ignoring the aids epidemic, letting our domestic economy go to the toilette, and having an approval rating in the 40th percentile in his last year in office, besides all of that, Reagan was an awesome president!!! We are still paying TODAY for Reagan's HORRIBLE domestic policy.  Everything from our war on drugs, to gang violence, to illegal immigration etc. can be traced back to the Reagan era.   (I love the re-imagining of history!)  The Reagan era was horrible, for the middle class, minorities, people with mental health problems, Vietnam Veterans, Farmers.... need I go on?  Oh yeah, this is a blog about vineyards....