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Yasobich - > Fun Stuff and Pickle Soup -> In response to a comment made on my Gay Blog
In response to a comment made on my Gay Blog
(for some reason i cannot comment on blogs, i sad) Hmm think about on what you are saying....If i were to marry my dog and it was legal then yes that is my family(just would give another meaning to the word doggie style:P), or to marry 3 or 4 wives it would be my family, now going to that extreme would take alot of crack to be smoked to pass a law for that. Now gay people are more acceptable today then marring dogs or cats. and the tax breaks you say are for couple that have kids? well gay people can have kid. would you rather have non adopted kids running around? stuck in homes that arent sutable for them? whats wrong with that? or even planned parenthood. there are options out there and if i recall most gay parents have better parenting skills than reguler parents, they arent trapped by the mindless garbage that is present on the tele. They are more open minded than most people. Get with the times things change weither we like it or not. And that Hidious heterosexual parade The Rose Parade? well anyways gay couples are more common than you think and they have rights too, so why not give them the same. if they have the kids let em have the break. and keeping thier sexuality private? tell that to the mass marketing of Hugo Boss or Guess where thier ads depict man woman humping each other in thier clothes, so its ok to see that in everyday life but a gay pride parade once a year is bad? Grant it im not gay and i dont mind seeing those ads but there has to be a breaking point some where, till then SIGH.....
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posted by anonymous on Oct 11, 2006 at 06:23 AM
The Hideous Rose parade??,,,,,have you ever seen gay parades?, you cannot compare the two,,,,, gay people can adopt, its true, and I don't have a problem with that,  kids should not be stuck in the system, but how many gay people do adopt?, not many, so, should they have the same tax breaks as men and women that are married?, I don't think so,,,,,my opinion,,the majority of people don't want gay marriage in this state,,,,,,,or any other state,,,,,,,we keep voting on it, and it keeps losing,,,,,,,,now gays want us to re-write our history books to recognize all gay people in history,,,,,,,,,is it important to our children that they know this? I think you better just stick to playing PS2 until you get your PS3 ,,,,,,,,,,, and try to keep your comments semi intelligent, research your facts before you throw them out there,,,,,,,,,,oh, and my gay friends agree with everything I have said here, we talk about issues like this often,,,,,,,
posted by anonymous on Oct 11, 2006 at 08:13 PM
SUUUUUUURE.....gay people sit around aaaaaaall the tiiiiiiime with uneducated right wing wacko HATERS like you saying, Gee, I'm so HAPPY I don't have the same civil rights as everyone else in this country!  If you have to lie to make a point, which you ARE, you don't have a point, which you DON'T, and you're really pathetic too.......... 
posted by anonymous on Oct 18, 2006 at 04:12 PM
Why is it that anyone who disagrees with a liberal cause is a hate monger?  Anti-civil rights?  I am so tired of being called wicked names for simply having an opinion that isn't rooted in hate, but perhaps might differ from another person's.
I do not like what anonymous wrote about PS2 and PS3 (in fact it took me a minute to figure out what he/she meant by that), but I do not like hugo boss/guess advertisements any more than I like any sexuality flaunted.  Propriety (not the Amish type, but the middle-of-the-road type, where people keep their hands to themselves in public) is just respectful.  The degradation of the beauty of the body has been fast tracked through the media.  Perhaps that is where we should start to make the changes...  in our house, you won't find any of that soft-porn advert in our mags or on our tv.  We openly talk about sex and sexuality, but it's done in a respectful way.  
Addressing the gay/straight issue--why is it that a heterosexual person isn't uplifted because they are heterosexual?  There is no heterosexual history month, or heterosexual day at Disneyland...  there are no heterosexual parades.  Sex and the lack thereof is a choice--we choose to partake or not.  We do not have a special event for people who practice abstinence, and society really shows a hatred for those that do practice abstinence.  
Marriage is a Biblical principal.  Jewish law, Christian law, and Muslim law all outline the rules of marriage.  It is a religious institution... and that institution (whether it be Jewish, Christian, or Muslim) has specific rules against homosexuality and only marrying a man and a woman.  I have friends that are homosexual, and we have debated in classes at my University--100% of my friends (hetero and homo sexual) agree that a civil union that allows the same protections under the law as marriage is an acceptable and even prized goal.  No one is all that sticky on the "marriage" word--and we ALL agree that there should be equal protection and coverage under the law.  The only one of my friends that disagrees is a family law attorney who has studied this and the potential problems that it might cause in the family courts--he believes that the courts would have to triple their already high fees and that attorneys would be backlogged and the courts would be backlogged for years... right now in the event of a divorce, you'd have to be tied in the courts for at least 2 years, and with any arguments, longer.
Do I believe that gay people should be allowed to adopt?  I believe that it shouldn't be unfair--if I, a married white girl, cannot adopt a black baby because I "cannot give him the culture that he needs", even though he is deaf and I already sign and have a deaf child... then a gay couple should not be able to openly adopt anyone they want to, either.  (What I am getting at is that the laws should allow stable couples to adopt--that culture shouldn't stand in the way--and that obviously a happy stable couple who have passed the psych profiles and tests is better than a slew of foster homes...)
On the gay history month--why is it that a person is put upon a pedestal simply because they are gay/straight?  I think that people should be put on pedestals for good/great behavior, brilliance, and civic acts.  But to "put them over the edge" because they happen to be gay?  I don't know anyone that would take that accolade and run with it--it's another ploy to undermine total sexuality propriety.  Can't society see this?  The pushing of the gay agenda isn't the homosexual's idea--at least from the many family members and friends that I have--they would rather just go on about their lives and not discuss their sexuality, especially like this...  The pushing of the agenda waters down the moral fiber of the society we live in.  Gay or straight--the media flashes and flaunts those things that are sexual again and again...  Makes us used to it... so it's not special anymore.  This has happened already in other cultures--look at French television--they have literal porn on their daytime television lineup and commercials.  Look one step further--the Nederlands--they allow pot smoking in the parks.  When you take away social "rules" of propriety, they slowly go away, one by one.
I am not dissing the gay lifestyle.  I am trying to point out that it goes far deeper than just which side of the bed you sleep on.  Tolerance goes both ways--and just because a person disagrees with you doesn't make them hateful (unless they are hateful in their presentation--ie calling names).  Most people are truly nice inside and have good intentions.  
I don't want hateful people speaking for me--and my friends that are gay do not like Rosie O'Donnell speaking for them either.  She is a picture of hate--nothing positive comes from her mouth.  I would be mortified if there was a heterosexual parade with women and men prancing around in g-strings and whips and chains...  and my friends are in kind mortified at the gay parades that you see televised from time to time.  It's degrading to the cause--to be represented by such anti-respect, anti-culture, anti-society people and events.
I have rambled on enough.  Have a nice day!
posted by anonymous on Nov 10, 2006 at 08:34 AM
I love your gay blog and your comments , Only wish more people where as tolerant as you. Perhaps this world would be a better place. These so called Christians who say "fags" go to hell and that homosexuals should not have the right to marry ..they are by far the most UNChristian people I know..Why cant gays be allowed to get married? Because the straight people in this world have made such a good example of marriage havent they? They are focused too much on what happens within someone elses own bedroom that they can not see what is within their hearts.
posted by ZU on Nov 10, 2006 at 12:38 PM
Many argue that marriage is essentially and necessarily a religious rite -- they conceive of marriage in almost exclusively religious terms. Therefore, legalizing gay marriage constitutes a type of sacrilege and an unjustified intrusion of the state into what is necessarily a religious matter. Because of religion's traditional role in sanctifying marriages and presiding over wedding ceremonies this is understandable, but it's also incorrect. Opposition to equal civil rights for gays comes in many forms. Religious conservatives are losing the argument that there is something necessarily wrong with homosexuality, so they appear to be turning to a new one: treating gays like fully equal citizens and human beings is incompatible with conservatives’ religious liberty. Since when did the preservation of religious liberty require treating members of a minority like second-class citizens?A common Christian Right argument against protecting gays' basic civil rights is that gays are seeking 'specia' rights unavailable to others. This is untrue, but it's rhetorically powerful and sounds convincing. It's also hypocritical because if any group in America is benefiting from and defending special rights for themselves, it's religious believers. Why do Christians favor restrictions on gays which they would never accept for themselves?Political equality requires human equality - when one group of citizens is treated as inferior on a basic human level, then it's impossible for them to be truly equal on a political level. Democracy, which is based upon political equality, thus cannot fully exist then citizens are denied full human equality. That's what happens when women, gays, or others are forced to hide or deny themselves.
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