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Fire department study
What do you think about this fire department study? Is it needed? Do you think it will be done right? Do you think the Caudal and McLaughable will contaminate the study?
62 comments from 21 users
posted by
thepain
on Oct 11, 2006 at 03:47 PM
The blogging stopped at my request. Sorry for that I guess. I was told if I could get the blogging to stop they would do a study and they have done that now. Now lets keep our voices loud and we will be noticed. That's if the Newspaper will allow it. The study will be done right because there is to many smart people watching them now. See Vicky the not so nice post have helped the City of Tehachapi and it's citizens to get that study..The Newspaper does some good. It's not all fluff is it now?
posted by
oldtehachapinative
on Oct 11, 2006 at 04:36 PM
It's funny we got someone talking about gays, someone talking about a wall to keep Mexicans out, but we can't talk about the fire department and the city. WHY? Yes someone purposely missed spelled some names to make a point and to try to be funny. Whats the big deal? The point is they are trowing our money away. I know why they want you to stop. I bet it is because the City keeps calling them asking them to delete you. What other paper would do what the city asked?
posted by
admin
on Oct 11, 2006 at 05:09 PM
We absolutely support your right to express yourself regarding any topic you see fit, and encourage you to do so. Sending an email asking posters to abide by our Terms of Service is our way to try not to remove posts. It's not a question of what we will or won't allow --- it's a matter of whether posters will or will not abide by the terms they agreed to when they assumed profiles on the site. I enjoy reading your comments, about all types of topics that encompass the city. All I'm asking is that you be respectful toward your fellow townspeople. I don't think that's a lot to ask. Especially since, as you've noted, your voice on these blogs is heard by many and can make a difference in the way things are done. posted by
longtimeresident
on Oct 11, 2006 at 08:26 PM
The best solution for the City would be to revert back to the system they had 4 years ago. The city had a Chief, Asst. Chief two paid firefighters and reserve firefighters. They did a good job of taking care of city business, inspections, and Public Relations. They drilled and got along with the County Fire Dept. and did it for a fraction of the cost of what they propose to spend on a fully staffed fire dept. They will soon find out that the County is not going to charge them anymore for the protection they are now getting. At this time one of their full time Firefighters is going to quit and start with the County. One of their Captains is going to quit and start with Bakerfied Fire Department , One of their Reserves is going to the County Fire Department, and the rest of their firemen just took the test for Bakersfield City. This department is going to be in a constant turnover. We as citizens of Tehachapi cannot afford to train new firefighters every few months and as a result have a department with less and less experience instead. We do need to stand up and let the study group know where we stand.
posted by
bill93561
on Oct 11, 2006 at 10:37 PM
Adding more fuel to the debate....Apparently 'Tehachapi Command One' drove up on the scene of a major accident at 58 & Towerline this afternoon. My information is sketchy, and I didnt hear all the radio traffic myself, but I certainly heard enough. I have no doubt that it was a chaotic mess, but you could definitely tell the difference between the county responders and our esteemed chief. The county guys all sounded calm and composed, while Command 1 sounded like he was in over his head. We need a cool, confident, knowledgeable leader in times of emergency.... and if a wreck can fluster the chief of a department, think about what would happen if a hopelessly underqualified captain was running the show... Not that that would EVER happen... And then there's the whole issue of cheaper and better service from the county, but I digress... posted by
anonymous
on Oct 12, 2006 at 08:26 PM
Kern County Fire Department has just stated, they will charge the City of Tehachapi $0 for Fire protection. That's right $0 for everything the County has. The County will still take the $200,000 fire fund tax from the state but that's it. The City never sees that tax money and for what I was told never would have! So Tehachapi do you want the County Fire Department for $0 and everything that comes with it OR 1.5 million for a City Fire Department with 2 guys an 1 firetruck?
posted by
wade93274
on Oct 12, 2006 at 10:02 PM
Give the poor guy a break, you have unrealistic expectations, I mean a County Trainee gets more calls in their probationary period than the Chief's had in his whole career. When you work at a station running over 2000 calls a year, that's 4-5 times Tehachapi's call volume. I'm sure that after 5-6 years on the new Tehachapi Fire Department and 5-10 million (maybe more if they need mutual aid in the next 5-6 years) I'm sure he'd be great on a call. The same goes for his kid and the other young guys they've hired (if they stay around long enough).
posted by
anonymous
on Oct 13, 2006 at 10:09 AM
Tehachapi Fire Dept. cost over a million dollars and the County cost $200,000! Why is the City spending $100,000 for a "NEED Study" for a city fire department? Is this not a no brainier? WASTE WASTE WASTE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by
anonymous
on Oct 13, 2006 at 09:51 PM
Tehachapi Fire cost that much more! What are they thinking?
posted by
anonymous
on Oct 14, 2006 at 07:36 PM
I heard that California City was all ready to contract with the KCFD for fire services, even the firefighters were all ready to come over, even though they were going to take a pay cut. Then Jason Caudle and Tim McLaughlin got in the middle of it, told the California City city manager not to do it, I even heard that Tim McLaughlin was on the board to help hire the new Fire Chief for Cal City Fire. Thats pretty bad that they are interferring in things that do not pertain to them. The only reason they did it was to help them keep the Tehachapi City Fire Dept. If Cal City went with the KCFD, Tehachapi wouldnt have a chance in keeping their fire dept. Pretty soon Tehachapi fire will be in the same boat as Cal City fire, Cal City had 2 major fires in close together, and they decimated their budget, they can't even afford to pay back the KCFD for all of the services they recieved on those 2 fires. Caudle and McLaughlin need to keep their noses in their own business.
posted by
anonymous
on Oct 15, 2006 at 10:49 AM
Caudle and McLaughlin doing this shows there desperation! McLaughlin interviewing people for there Chief is a joke, he is not even a real chief himself! I was told that Cal City was still going to go back to Kern County, did this change? How is the City of Tehachapi going to say they need there own fire department when Kern is not going to charge them anything? HELLO LINDA, ED and PHIL don't you see what's going on? Someone please called them and tell them about this blog. Tehachapi go back to the paid call department you once were. That's what is best for our City!
posted by
anonymous
on Oct 15, 2006 at 08:11 PM
Nepotism o how ugly you are! once again my TFD story. I applied for the city of Tehachapi when it was a paid call dept. having over 12 years of experience I only wanted to help my community and I understood it was not a full time job. To my dismay I was turned away from the fire department, Turned away from a volunteer dept! shortly after i heard of TFD trying to become a full time department. I then understood why a person with good experience in public and private fire and rescue would be turned away. You see I would have interfered with a sons and friends job, they already had people in mind and these people would not have to test, compete, or apply for the job. About one year later i went to work for the KCFD and I love it I'm not writing because I have a grudge with the TFD, I really can give a heck if they have a department or not. I would still have my job we wouldn't have station 12 but KCFD would be fine protecting the rest of the county and not loosing money with the Tehachapi station. The people of Tehachapi would loose thats it pure and simple. I just know TFD would have been so much better and respected if they would have taken the high road and had a competitive test like all other fire departments in the united states.
only then would they have had a good qualified applicant to make a captain some good people would have come about out of the thousands (yes i said thousands) of applicants that take tests to be firefighters. posted by
SimplyMe
on Oct 17, 2006 at 08:54 AM
Are you saying that our firefighters do not have to take and pass the tests?
I am new to this conversation, and frankly, assumed that our department was likened to those in other towns... I had just taken for granted that it was above-board and qualified. I know how hard it is to pass these exams, and I know that there are huge waiting lists to become a firefighter--are you saying that this is not true here? How can this be? Thanks for enlightening this resident who has unknowingly had her proverbial head in the sand. posted by
anonymous
on Oct 17, 2006 at 10:46 AM
Nope to be a Tehachapi Firefighter all you have to do is be a reserve 1st! How do you be a reserve? You just got to know someone in the City Department. You can't have more experience or qualifications then the Chief's son and that is it, your in! It's sad that they have never let anyone with any real qualifications take there test. OH and the City Department will cost the people of Tehcahpi 1.5 million more! It will be a sad day for us when they take over calls and go fulltime.
posted by
anonymous
on Oct 17, 2006 at 01:57 PM
Yes I'm saying this fire department was hired noncompetitive. If the city is intent on waisting money on a fire department at least the city manager and council should waste money on a real fire department that was tested and hired in a proper competitive manner. Potential qualified persons who have been training and studying to be a firefighter did not get a chance to serve tehachapi there was no equal opportunity. The city has hired in a way which proves that without testing there will be no diversity within its city services. There is also a reason that small city's do not have fire departments. They are simply not cost affective. Firefighters will always look to move on to larger departments where they will have a chance to promote, work in other programs, and move around to other fire houses to expand experience as firefighters. Take my word every firefighter in the Tehachapi Fire Department that is not above the nepotism block will move on. This "local control" fire department is a sham on the public and all that was controlled is who received Tehachapi citizens money.
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