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Fire department study
What do you think about this fire department study? Is it needed? Do you think it will be done right? Do you think the Caudal and McLaughable will contaminate the study?
62 comments from 21 users
posted by
ChiChiBug
on Oct 17, 2006 at 06:07 PM
I had NO idea that this was the case, either. posted by
anonymous
on Oct 17, 2006 at 07:39 PM
This was Jason Caudles and Tim McLaughlin's idea with the blessing of all the members of the City Council! To top that off they have helped squashed a long term plan for Kern County Fire to take over Cal. City Fire. This was a plan that the employees of Cal City Fire wanted. Now they have decided to test and go out of town to find a job. Just like all the Tehachapi City guys have. What other bridges will they burn with the County Firemen? Do you think it will ever get better? What can you do? Find a Tehachapi City leader and tell them your not happy. When the study you paid $100,000 for starts go and say hell no! Whats the city going to do hire guys just to watch all of them move on to other larger departments?
posted by
countygirl
on Oct 17, 2006 at 11:31 PM
I know I'm kind of repeating myself, but please, bear with me. I want to know how everyone feels about the study and the deadlines. According to the aritcle the paper put out about it http://www.tehachapinews.co... Caudle says the deadline for the renewal of the County contract is Jan.2007. Now if the study takes longer than two months to finish(and a decent one should) ,what will they do? Will the County extend this deadline? Will we be forced to go with the City Fire Dept? Are they actually using the study to backdoor this as they have been doing all along? Anyway, I am just curious how everyone else feels about this.Also, Can I tell you how annoyed I am that you can't "quote" any of these blogs!!! lol Geesh! Sure would make life easier. posted by
anonymous
on Oct 18, 2006 at 04:33 PM
SAVE FIRE DEPARTMENT - Vote for Henry, and Stan!!!
posted by
medicone
on Oct 19, 2006 at 12:54 PM
B/C Steve Kinsey is Tehachapi City Fire biggest supporter! He uses them every chance he gets, even when they are not needed. When Tehachapi City Fire goes full time they can thank Steve for all his hard work!!!! Maybe he is looking for a job.
posted by
tehachapiforlife
on Oct 20, 2006 at 07:19 PM
Firefighters from Cal City are suing their city for the right to talk/speak about going to the Kern County Fire Department. The Cal City firefighters are wanting to take a cut in pay in order to improve the level of fire service to the town. They feel going from a small city department to Kern County that there own safety and the safety of the public will go up! Tehachapi News needs to do a story on this, it is just the opposite of what our City Hall is saying. WHY IS THAT?Am I the only one that saw NO Tehachapi Fire Department on today's Haz-Mat thing in down town Tehachapi? Did they choose to let the Pros do there job? What wound the cost to the city be if they didn't have a contract with Kern County? One County Haz-mat team all day long at what $1000.00 an hour? Mrs. Hand says she will just bill the rail road for the cost. What if the next Haz-Mat is not the fault of the rail road? What if its an unknown hazardous material in a city street? Who is this B/C Steve Kinsey? Why is he helping the City do this rotten thing to us? posted by
anonymous
on Oct 20, 2006 at 08:43 PM
Medicone. B/C Steve Kinsey does not dispatch the city to calls just to be friends with them. Any time that he dispatches the city, with or without the county responding, has always been in the best interest of the public and not in an attempt to make the city happy. When he cancels Keene and starts the city, it is in the publics best interest to keep Keene covered while at the same time getting more equipment on the scene sooner. Today was a good example of the city being kept where they belong. Chief Kinsey canceled the city on the Railroad Haz Mat incident so that while the Kern County Fire Dept. did an excellent job of handling the incident, the TFD would be available to help cover the Tehachapi area even though there were still a couple of county engines on scene of the Haz Mat that were available to respond. To all of you out there, keep talking to your friends, neighbors, and anyone you meet. Let them know how Caudle and others are trying to scam them and the rest of the city. Caudle summed it up quite some time ago in the paper when he said "It is not about money, it is about control." He just wants to have control and the heck with how much money it costs the tax payers.
posted by
medicone
on Oct 20, 2006 at 09:43 PM
I can not disagree with you more. If he had the best interests of the people in mind he would not ask for the city on calls outside of the city. Ask yourself this question, If you lived in Golden Hills would you want a fully trained county crew in 15 mins (station 11) or the city crew in 8 mins, as your second engine? He is doing the county tax payers a disservice by starting and city to Golden Hills and 916 the prison crew also. How will us in Golden Hills ever get a station when he tries to show one is not need by using untrained kids and inmates. Do you want these kids or inmates working on you? Keeping Keene covered that's a joke, right? If Keene didn't go to Tehachapi on calls they would not have any calls. None of the other B/C's use the prison and the city like he does. I can't believe any of the Chief's put up with the constant self dispatching from the city.
posted by
bill93561
on Oct 21, 2006 at 08:06 PM
The city was not involved in the hazmat, IN MY OWN OPINION, because they do not have the training, equipment, experience or maturity to be involved in such an incident. If anyone out there can contradict this and show me how wrong my opinion is, by all means show me the error of my ways. I don't expect any takers, but if you're out there, I want to hear from you.I heard they were also not utilized on a bad wreck the other day. The Towerline Road wreck last week was a prime example of the City department's inability to adequately protect us. Can someone at The News confirm what was said on here recently about the county's new proposal that would not cost the city a penny? And please... do an in-depth, comprehensive story on this issue... posted by
anonymous
on Oct 21, 2006 at 08:57 PM
To Caudle: Please spare your city tax payers yet another penny on your quest for "local control." Why even go there you have shown for more than enough time that you simply don't care what your city population says. I beg you don't waste more city money on a "fair study" by an "independent study group". You know that your ego wont allow you to be wrong. Just give up the ego and assume for once some decision making responsibility insted of letting a trumped up study group justify your "local control" facination, or be a real big person and admit you were totally wrong. KCFD $200,000 vs $1.5 million TFD for less service? what is there to study? We all must just be too short sighted to understand. To all those wondering what to do, please write the grand jury and ask why the City of Tehachapi gave good paying jobs away without a competitive process. Nepotism, unfair hiriing practices, equal opportunity, diversity, all things that need to be addressed that TFD/Tehachapi City did not when hiring fand promoting the Fire Department.
posted by
longtimeresident
on Oct 21, 2006 at 09:03 PM
Bill 93561, as I have said before, the city will not have to pay the county any additional money for full fire protection in the city other than the current structural fire tax the county now collects (approx. 270,000). But I don't believe the answer would be to do away with the city fire department. Chief McLaughlin has done a tremendous job of turning around a failing volunteer fire department. He should have just been satisfied with that and not tried to be a big new department. I believe he got the interest of city manager Caudle who got grandiose ideas about being in charge of his own city police and fire departments. I don't believe he can still say that would be the fiscally responsible approach. For a fraction of the cost, he can have an experienced, fully staffed fire department (The County Fire Department) and spend a little more money and get the two firefighters to do the inspections and programs they think necessary.
posted by
packerfan
on Oct 22, 2006 at 10:42 AM
gman, You are absolutely correct. Our city cannot afford all these independent services. As a businessman, I know when to outsource and I don't need an expensive consultant to tell me to do it. My name is STAN BECKHAM and I am asking for your VOTE for Tehachapi City Council.I've been around here just a bit longer than you have and under my leadership as your city council member, I guarantee you the nepotism and cronyism is going to stop. I have no tolerance for it. I remember the old days and they weren't that great unless your parents were 'connected.' I saw the problem as a problem then and I see that we are starting the cycle again. This is one of the reasons I am in this race and the first place we stop the nepotism is to DON'T VOTE FOR TEEL, your City Manager, Jason Caudle's, mother-in-law. Because of the TEEL/Caudle connection, you have Tim Felsoci, Caudle's neighbor, on your Planning Commission who has 'rubber stamped' every deal that has come his way. He doesn't attend the meetings unless his vote is needed to break a deadlock in favor of the TEEL/Caudle/James agenda. If you want to STOP the NEPOTISM and CRONYISM, then pass the word to VOTE for STAN BECKHAM FOR CITY COUNCIL! Let's start holding your City Manager and Planning Director, your Mayor and Council Members responsible for their actions. Let's STOP wasting your tax dollars and let's get together as a community! GET out the VOTE on Tuesday, November 7th! Your VOTE does count! Stan Beckham posted by
citylady
on Oct 22, 2006 at 11:05 PM
Mclauglin and Caudle, It's time to do the right thing. Go back to the old way. Go back to paid call firemen, and two full time guys. You will get your own little firetruck to push around, and the city will get WHAT IT NEEDS. Hell all but one of your firemen are going else where. $1.5 million for what? So you can train guys to go to work for other departments! Your cops will do the same by the way! Thanks to everyone that has posted on here, Please keep your questions and commits coming. Don't forget to show up for the study meetings. It's time to look at what you have gained and what you have lost pursuing this department. Gained= lots of mad citizens. Lost =old ties and good service to the City. You can add more to your own +/- list!!! Don't spend our money on a study to tell you what you already know. County Fire has more for less, City Fire has less for more!Do you really need to pay $100,000 for a study to tell you that? HEY you guys you have been asked 100's of questions, when are you guys going to answer some of them?
posted by
anonymous
on Oct 24, 2006 at 09:11 PM
Hello Tim, Jason can you see this???? We need to make a list to give the study guy when he shows up. Like, Why pay 1.3 million more? Why let untrained kids run calls? You know little stuff like that. I was told that the Tehachapi news has told the City who all us bloggers are. Is this true or just rumor?
posted by
anonymous
on Oct 24, 2006 at 09:19 PM
Hey where is all that $3,000 per new home tax money going? Why is part of that money for fire and cops not going to the county? They provide the service right? Is this money being spent, saved, or what?
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