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Fire department study
What do you think about this fire department study? Is it needed? Do you think it will be done right? Do you think the Caudal and McLaughable will contaminate the study?
62 comments from 21 users
posted by
oldtehachapinative
on Oct 11, 2006 at 04:36 PM
It's funny we got someone talking about gays, someone talking about a wall to keep Mexicans out, but we can't talk about the fire department and the city. WHY? Yes someone purposely missed spelled some names to make a point and to try to be funny. Whats the big deal? The point is they are trowing our money away. I know why they want you to stop. I bet it is because the City keeps calling them asking them to delete you. What other paper would do what the city asked?
posted by
thepain
on Oct 11, 2006 at 03:47 PM
The blogging stopped at my request. Sorry for that I guess. I was told if I could get the blogging to stop they would do a study and they have done that now. Now lets keep our voices loud and we will be noticed. That's if the Newspaper will allow it. The study will be done right because there is to many smart people watching them now. See Vicky the not so nice post have helped the City of Tehachapi and it's citizens to get that study..The Newspaper does some good. It's not all fluff is it now?
posted by
anonymous
on Oct 11, 2006 at 03:06 PM
I just got an e-mail from the News paper saying "I" continue to make insulting post....someone please tell me what post I have made that is insulting? They are public figures, They have ran or took jobs that make them targets for people that don't like what they are doing. Do you see FOX, the Bakersfield Californian, CNN telling there customers to stop saying insulting things about Bush or anyone else for that matter. Is this not a newspaper that has a blog? Does the news paper have a side they want promoted or not promoted? Come on look at my post it says keep things nice. If your going to censor things just shut down the site.
posted by
medicone
on Oct 11, 2006 at 02:23 PM
My spin on this topic is: I have worked with both departments. One is very professional, and well trained, one is not. If I had an emergency at my house, I would think the one would make it better, one I am not to sure about. I like all the guys on both sides but we are talking about life and safety here right?
posted by
gman
on Oct 11, 2006 at 11:23 AM
Nepotism is nothing new for the city of Tehachapi. I was born here 56 years ago, so I've seen many changes. One constant that has plagued Tehachapi, Bear Valley and Stallion Springs is nepotism. Many times executives hire relatives, whether it is sons, brothers, cousins etc. I call it the "back door policy." You can test all you want and have oral evaluations, but when all is said and done the boss hires who he want's. When Tehachapi disbanded the police department everyone was told it was about money, not enough, the truth is, it was all about politics and that is the truth. Now the city wants to reinstate a police dept. and expand the fire dept., which means moving the county out. I agree with everyone who says do the math. With a local police dept. there are aspects the city could never afford, swat, state of the art equipment, etc, without spending millions of dollars. It also works the same way with the fire dept. in a much larger venue. In my opinion, what the city is doing, is what's always been done, they want full control over the city, with no one to answer to except the taxpayers, who they routinely don't listen to anyway. Maybe this time the city will actually make the right choice, don't hold your breath, and save the taxpayers a huge amount of money. posted by
tehachapiforlife
on Oct 11, 2006 at 10:17 AM
I cant believe that the City leaders can't see the damage to this program they have done. If they would have done it right they would have a fire department today. BUT they hired friends and family, they promoted the chief's son and others with no experience. They never did any testing so I or anyone else could get a job. The son goes around with a chip on his shoulder talking down to people, including me when he inspected my store. Who was I going to call for this behavior his dad? Lets stick with the PRO's and not let the city pull this very expensive nickel and dime stuff. I feel sorry for the good firefighters with the city that are getting hurt by this. I also feel sorry for the county firefighters that do i good job, they shouldn't be having to deal with this.City leaders have you been reading the blogs for the last year???? posted by
anonymous
on Oct 11, 2006 at 10:01 AM
FIRE DEPARTMENT- Well I know for sure the City is planing on during what ever the study says. It just happens to be that the study will say what they want it to. Just like the police study. County Fire Department = 46 stations, 50 plus engines, 4 ladder trucks, haz-mat team, heavy rescue team, helicopter, air tankers, arson, experience and trained firefighters. All for less then $300,000 a year cost to Tehachapi. City Fire Department = 6 firefighters with little to no training and experience, 2 fire engines, one station and that's it. Cost to Tehachapi over a million a year. Do the math! The county provides 9 firefighters at it's Curry street station and 12 more in the greater Tehachapi area. If Tehachapi needed 100 firefighters today for some big emergency it would cost the City of Tehachapi no more then the $300,000 they already pay. If we had only the City fire department the city would have to pay the cost of those other 94 firefighters. It's called mutual aid, it cost if you don't have something to mutual back with.
posted by
oldtehachapinative
on Oct 10, 2006 at 04:39 PM
I was told they got the grant for new firefighters, but the city has decided to wait for the study to be done 1st. What an idea! It only took them 1 1/2 years to do something right. The police study took over a year from start to finish. This study will be done in the spring I hope. Make sure you go to any meetings about this when they come up. Lets make the City do the right thing. Two of the City firemen went to work for the County and all but one of the guys still with the City have tested for other departments. I guess all but one has seen the writing on the wall.
posted by
countygirl
on Oct 10, 2006 at 03:00 PM
Does anyone know what the situation with the grants they applied for is like? Also, does anyone know how long it took to do the study for the police dept? If the contract isn't awarded until Nov.6 will they even be done with the study by Jan.1, 2007 when the county contract is up for renewal?
posted by
anonymous
on Oct 10, 2006 at 02:04 PM
Wow mimi has a brain....I wish more of you did. I would like to see more SMART blogging like this.
posted by
mimi
on Oct 10, 2006 at 01:55 PM
My spin, medicone - I of course, agree with most people posting on here: A fire department study isn't needed because we should never have had a city fire department in the first place. Obviously, the county offers us so many valuable services already and for the city to even attempt to spend that kind of money on comparable services of their own is a joke. I feel the city has wasted enough of our tax money on crap that we don't need and I hope whomever does this study has sense enough to see that this is a waste of time and money that could be spent elsewhere. Whether or not Caudle and McLaughlin will "contaminate" the study? I think enough people are upset enough with the city at this time that it would be difficult, but I suppose it all depends on who is doing the study, doesn't it?
posted by
anonymous
on Oct 10, 2006 at 01:52 PM
I think the study is to late. Do you think the city will back down from what they have started? What are they going to do with all the kids that they have put in to these jobs? Think of them they have been mislead into thinking this was a full time and permanent thing. They probably have bought cars and homes, what is the city going to do with them if they do what the study will for sure tell them? If the city keeps this fire department and i know they will, how are they going to pay for it? They are going to stop all new homes. What happen to putting the cart before the horse? Why do a study if you already done it?
posted by
anonymous
on Oct 10, 2006 at 01:32 PM
Just say NO to this nightmare the city has forced on us.posted by
medicone
on Oct 10, 2006 at 01:29 PM
mimi- whats your spin on this issue?
And please others tell us what you think if you can........................lol posted by
anonymous
on Oct 10, 2006 at 01:26 PM
Show up and let them know $1.5 million more is not what we want...... Trained/ experienced/ completive testing/ no nepotism/ more bang for the buck fire protection. Please! you don't want kids showing up at your door on the worst day of your life and you need help do you?
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