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Good point oohchild! Thank goodness we do live in a country where we are allowed to make our own decisions....not like in China where women are TOLD to eliminate pregnancies.  Me? I could never get an abortion and would have to really think hard about a late term abortion.  I do not believe it is what God intended for me to do.  But I do strongly support every women's right to choose.  What may be best for me may not be for you.

This debate right here is a perfect example of why this kind of decision should be made by the family involved, with the consultation of the doctors chosen to treat the particular medical problem.

Look at the kind of folks who have been involved in this kind of decision. Yes, countygirl, it's a decision. Aren't you glad you had a choice, instead of the government telling you what to do? What if the government had decided it's too risky to allow you to continue your pregnancy? Of course you knew best. As any pregnant woman knows best. That's my point! Why do you want to get the government involved in this kind of personal choice? Isn't that against the Republican Way? Why can't the government stay out of this, too? Who are you, countygirl, to determine what's "valid" in this sorrowful time?

I wouldn't go so far as to accuse you of riding a high horse. I would accuse you of trying to inflict your judgements on other people without consideration of that same judgement coming back to bite you. Leave medical decisions to the family, else you may regret your position later.

Right.....my religion. Wow!  You are a piece of work.

lol...hypocrisy...yawn...that's funny coming from you, and talk about old and unoriginal.

Carrying to term a brainless litte body is pretty pathetic and extremely selfish, would you have a halo for your martyrdom? Your remark didn't surprise me. I'm glad my friend opted to do the right thing for herself and her family.

You, your religion AND the government need to stay the hell out of every woman's womb!!

Breathing that rarified air up on that high horse countygirl is always on must make her dizzy at times. She never seems to climb down...........Ahhh, the hypocrisy!! Joty you really need to find a different angle this one is getting old. Would I have carried that baby to term?? ......yes, whether or not YOU think that makes me better than you friend is up to you because I never said such a thing.

Here is a good read. A reminder of what once was........... I highlighted the really interesting parts..........

Representative Charles T. Canady, Republican of Florida, who is to re-introduce the House bill this week, said in an interview, ''The President is getting in more and more of a box on this, defending something which fewer and fewer people are going to be willing to defend.''

Thanks awsmom. My friend was lucky enough to get pregnant again and delivered a healthy baby boy. She made the choice however, that she would not have anymore.

lol, yes, brainless wonders indeed!!!!

I really didn't want to get involved in this blog because of who posted it and the link he provided. I should have just considered the source and gone on my way. But there is a certain smug someone who, well...let's just leave it at that. Sigh, I'm in trouble with my anger coach...

Yes TK--they are rarely performed but are a necessary option that needs to remain available.

And countygirl and joty, my heart goes out to you and your friend.

And Joty--maybe I'm wrong and you CAN live without a brain.  There are brainless wonders walking around everywhere!

Didn't researchers try to find statistics on the so called 'partial birth abortion' and they could only find 3 procedures like that had been performed in the entire nation in 2005?  Wow, the floodgates are open.  This government listens to our phone conversations, reads our emails, tracks our internet surfing, and looks up our skirts.  Enough already!

Everyone here in the US has choices.  One of these choices is to have the freedom to decide whether or not these pregnancies should continue to term. Several yes ago a friend of mine was 5 mths pregnant then diagnosed with a baby that had a birth defect that was not compatable with life.  I went with her as she explored the options available.--carry the baby to term or a late term abortion.  We went to an MD who did late term abortions and she discused the situation with him.  My friend ultimently chose to carry the baby to term and delivered a 4 lb girl.  Instead of leaving the baby at the hospital to die as some parents do, she chose to leave the hospital with the baby 6 hrs after birth.  She and her family cared for the baby at home til she died on day 3.  She felt it was the right decsion for the baby and her family.

But she did have the right to chose what she felt what was right for the baby and her family.  And the right to chose is something that is between a woman, her family and God.  If she feels it is the right descion, who are we to tell her no?

Breathing that rarified air up on that high horse countygirl is always on must make her dizzy at times. She never seems to climb down.

I wish she could speak to my friend who at four months was told after an ultrasound her baby had no brain. I suppose cg would have had her carry it to term anyway...then again, there seems to be a plethora of people born brainless.

Posting that illustration Smokey was so unnecessary. What was your point?

Let's try to put our emotions aside for a few min.  Late term abortions are  usually done to save the life of the mother.  Women who undergo these procedures either have a preexisting medical condition such as organ transplantation, hypertension, or diabetes, just to name a few.  Many have given birth without much complications before, but this particular pregnancy has pushed their bodies over the edge.  Now they have developed eclampsia and are seizing from being pregnant or their high blood pressure has increased so high they are going to stroke.  Or they went into renal failure from the pregnancy and their kidneys have shut down. The only  way to save mom's life is to deliver the baby.  Occasionally, a baby has a birth defect incompatible with life  that is not diagnosed  until late in the pregnancy.  Some mothers and their doctors decide that they want to end the pregnancy  instead of giving birth to a dead baby or  go thru  watching a baby struggle to stay alive,crying, listening to mewing sounds, seizing, turning blue, and have severe respiratory distress till the baby dies.  Watching and waiting for a baby to die is something some  parents just can not do. Occasionally these babies, esp. the girls as they are fighters,  will live from a matter of min to 3 days til they die.  Some parents just do not want to witness this and have a late term abortion and the baby is born dead.   As to late term abortion babies being born alive, this does not happen.

Either way, it is a sad ending to what should have been a joyous event.  Tears are shed not only by the mom but staff members as well.  It's been many years since I have held a dying baby, but I can still remember their little faces and how they were cradled in my arms.  Life is not fair. And sometimes it just plain sucks.

countygirl just because you had a bad diagnosis doesn't mean that's the norm. I am very happy that I never was faced with this tragic situation. I do believe that it is not used as a birth control tool. Do you know that they must kill the baby while the baby's head is still in the mother. Its only murder if you kill the baby after it is born.

There's always a medical reason to late-term abort, ladies & gentlemen.

Yup, there is now because there has to be one in order for it to happen. Whether or not that "reason" is valid is another story.

I am disturbed by people who pretend to know what they are talking about also. Honestly you can tell me what you want! I HAVE been in this woman's position!  DO you know what Trisomy 18 or 13 is oohchild?? If so how does it make the mother at risk?? I was told my child had Trisomy 18 or 13 and I was never told that it would affect my health NOT ONCE!  While I feel sorry for her she had carried the baby for 8 months, at that point even if she had it then it could have survived (if it was healthy) so again how did this put her life in danger??