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countygirl - > Wake up Tehachapi !! -> Sec.8 - Does anyone know??
Sec.8 - Does anyone know??
Does anyone know if the Sec.8 was approved? I just noticed( on the agenda) that there were some complexes approved to be built off of Pinion. Does anyone know if these will be Sec. 8? I've been looking at  homes around in that area and if this was going to be in the area I wouldn't consider moving there. Any info would be helpful. Thank You!
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posted by countygirl on Friday, November 2, 2007 at 12:59 PM
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posted by pgmurphy on Nov 6, 2007 at 09:03 PM
I deal with Section 8 every day at work in Palmdale.  I could tell you many horror stories.  I can't imagine it in our fine city.  I moved out here to get away from all that.  If they build an 80 unit complex with Section 8, things will get real bad out here.  The small Tehachapi Police Dept will be overwhelmed by it.  The thugs wil have a field day here.  Time to move to Idaho....
posted by tehachapidad on Nov 6, 2007 at 10:25 PM

Unfortunately from what I have heard that for every number of "Good" houses you have to have the "Low Income" housing. Oh and I heard a rumor that they want to almost double the size of CCI! Does that go together or what??? Gotta give the prisoners families a home you know. We already pay for the prisoner. Why not the family too!! Is this country great or what!!!! Better double or triple the size of TPD and get a City SWAT Team Study going. Gonna need it.

posted by olivia on Nov 7, 2007 at 05:24 AM
Sounds to me like I've got more "rough days at work" ahead of me.  Glad I know the Serenity Prayer.  I guess I'll have to start talking about getting more staff myself!  TehachapiDad, is your employer ready for this?
posted by Colitas on Nov 7, 2007 at 02:34 PM
I agree with the comments here.  But the one thing that always irritates me is the CCI thing.   But the prison has been there since 1933 and and there hasn't been a mad rush to live in Tehachapi because of love ones in the prison.  There are some, but the number of love ones who live here that has people in prison already lived here.  There are quite a few of prisoners that came from Tehachapi.  Now maybe that has changed drastically in past few years I don't know.  But it always irritates me when I hear that the prison draws the "bad apples" from the big cities.  The statistics just isn't there hold that theory. 
posted by awsmom8 on Nov 7, 2007 at 04:25 PM
One of the reasons that CCI families haven't moved here is because we don't have low income housing and not many section 8 houses....just wait and see.
posted by OU812 on Nov 7, 2007 at 08:42 PM

Coliats I bet if you asked a cop in town they will tell you that a lot of their contacts are with prison families. When the Level 4's were built and we started to keep prisoners for more then just a few years the families started to move to town. Did we have issues before?  Yes  I just think we have more now. :(  What does the City get out of having SEC 8 homes?

posted by Colitas on Nov 7, 2007 at 10:14 PM
OU812, like I said earlier, I agree with the fact that maybe there shouldn't be more sec 8 housing until there are more resources in Tehachapi.  I just get tired of hearing the old "CCI" excuse when things go bad or people are drawing at straws.  You said I should ask a local cop about the situation, but I ask you this:  out of the small percentage, and I mean small, of inmates in CCI that have family in Teh, what is the percentage that those family members were already here BEFORE the inmate came to CCI?  I think that would surprise you. 
posted by scottso on Nov 8, 2007 at 12:03 AM
To be frank, you can gloss it over all you want, if sec 8 housing moves here our crime rate will double in a few years. Mark my words.  I'm usually a pretty moderate guy  but this is bad news for our town.  Sec 8 housing brings in the bad element in volumes and more resources or not I'm all for keeping it out.  The people that live in these homes don't care about their homes, families or their neighborhood.  They are the wellfare, give me what I want or I will take it type of people.  I'm sure there are a very few people who end up in Sec 8 housing that are not bad people but the fact of the matter is that the vast majority of them ARE.  If they aren't their relatives are.  If its not too late to stop this we need to.  All you folks who are worried about Walmart moving into town have their priorities int he wrong place.  This is the type of thing you should be worrying about if you love your small town atmosphere.  It won't be a very nice place to live when you hear about the drive by shootings, dead bodies found, and drug busts every week.
posted by gube on Nov 8, 2007 at 08:06 AM

We already have sec 8 housing across from west park and we don't hear of shootings, dead bodies found and drug bust every week. in fact i have not head a whole lot of bad things about the place. It all depends on the management of the place. If the management goes by the rules and evict the one that don't then i don't think there will be the problems that you all are so worried about. I have heard of a lot more bad things happening at cherry lane apt's then over in the sec 8. I agree with colitas as far as sec 8 attracting CCI family's, It wont. The sec 8 we already have has a long waiting list to get into them. Those are the people who will move into the new section 8.Their will be some trash that move in the sec 8. Alot of the sec 8 apt's will go to single moms trying to raise their kids the best way they can. you people talk about the poor like their cancer. not all poor people are drug dealers and drug addicts. People are funny. They will give food and money at Christmas's time to help the needy and poor and then blog about them being bad people that we need to be afraid of. Shame.

posted by Xyla32 on Nov 8, 2007 at 10:17 AM
It truly hurts my soul to know that all of "those people" who are receiving Section 8 housing are lumped into one messy category.  I moved here not too long ago and have been on waiting list for Section 8 housing.  I am so sorry that I moved here with not much education and no means of travel such distance to a job that will pay me enough to drive, pay rent and give my child what he so desperatly needs.  I am hoping that when this is built, that I may finally qualify for something I desperately need.  I hope that law enforcement will do the job of keeping such "riff-raff" from giving me some kind of quality of life in this little town.  I'm hoping my son will be able to play with other children in this housing area.  I'm hoping I don't have to worry about him being lumped into a cluster a people who depend on this housing and I'm hoping that the City will enforce the regulations that Section 8 requires.  I wonder, when you see me standing outside of Sec 8 housing waiting on my son to arrive from school, will you look at me through the same eyes of which you write about?  I broght my son from a city that I'm afraid would have consumed him.  I'm hoping your children who are more fortunate than my child will not have the same ideas as the parent.  I don't know if I like you people.  I hope to not have to ruin your space or cause fear for you.   
posted by olivia on Nov 8, 2007 at 10:38 AM

Xyla, I agree with you.  It will have to up to city and law enforcement and whoever is chosen to manage this housing, to keep things under control.  I have found that there are areas all over this city that are out of control.  The people running in and out. The children who are running amok.  The "code enforcer" may need some help in keeping things enforced.  I'm hoping that if you are able to move into this area, that you are able to have a safe place for your son to grow up, be safe and have fun.  Not all of these people are bad people.  I'm hoping you will be one of the tenants who will turn those people who are there to abuse a lifestyle provided to them that they would normally not be able to have. 

No one should be lumped into one category.  If you read my comment on another blog that had to do with Section 8, you will read that I am torn in my opinion of this exactly for people like you who just seem to need a break.  I think a child should be able to have a nice life even if there parents are poor.  And for the drug dealers/users, keep your crap to yourself.  Don't expose the whole town to your sh*t.  To law enforcment and code enforcer...if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, assume it's a duck pull it over, find out if it's a freaking duck and do something about it.

posted by countygirl on Nov 8, 2007 at 10:38 AM

Xyla32- Come on now! You know we are not talking about people like you, and all of us who have spoken out against it (Sec.8) have stated that not everyone who use the system abuse it.  You can judge us all you want. I'm just stating facts and I'm sorry if they offend you. There were tons of section 8 apt. and complexes in the town where my husband used to work at.  They learned where they were real fast because they were constantly running there. Domestic disputes, overdoses, stabbings, you name it it happened, and this was in a place just slightly bigger than Tehachapi. I hope the best for you and your son. Hold him close.

Gube is right about Cherry Lane Estates though. They are pretty bad.

posted by Smokey on Nov 8, 2007 at 10:52 AM

Like most things in life, a few bad apples ruin it for everyone. I am sure there are people who need sec8 housing that will not abuse it but the facts remain: section 8 will bring drugs/domestics/robberies etc.  (Just wait and see. )The majority of people in that housing are not trying to better themselves they are just feeding off the system. They probably always have and probably always will. Regardless, even those who have a desire to better themselves have a slim chance of that happening in Tehachapi. There are very limited resources here

Where do you think these people that will live in the new sec8 will get the money to buy drugs, not from gainful employment, from stealing it from you and I. It's sad but true.

Now get back to work, millions on welfare depend on you ;)

posted by Xyla32 on Nov 8, 2007 at 10:57 AM

Yes, I have read that only 95% are drug users. 

And you are wrong, I don't know that you are not talking about people "like me".  I can see you driving by in your nice car and your well dressed children and looking at me like I am one of those "95%".  You seem to be offended that I judge you all.  I am on welfare and I have applied for sect 8 house.  I live in gated community on Cherry Ln.  I pay most of my check on rent.  Do I have safe place for my son to play?  No. Why has none of you gone up against these places.  The trailer parks in this town?  Across these tracks we have, have you been there.  All of what you fear is here.  The stabbings, the shootings, the drugs they are here.  It is up to our city to open their eyes and not give up in keeping Tehachapi safe.  I will do my part.  I do my part.  I call police and nothing happens.  Drug users/dealers seem to be safe from law.  Bad parenting seems to be safe from law. 

posted by Joty on Nov 8, 2007 at 10:58 AM

Gube sometimes you are wacky in your comments, then other times you hit the old nail right on the head! I try not to judge unless I've walked a mile on that person's path. I'm not always successful sorry to say.

I don't know that much about Section 8, but I do know trash and crime is in any neighborhood regardless of income. Just because some cities may have trouble with their 8's doesn't necessarily mean it will happen here. We have to hope our law enforcement is up to any challenge that may arise.

Xyla, Tehachapi has really great people, don't give up on us. I'm hoping you qualify and can give your son the life he deserves and that you will come to love Tehachapi as much as I do.

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