I have nothing to be offended by.  Like I said unless you are a drug dealer, stealing, committing fraud, not willing to work, etc. you have no reason to be offended. You've already stated you're not like that sooooooo you have nothing to be offended about. If you think that that new section 8 complex means a safe place for your son to play sorry to say think again. It will be just like where you currently are. As for the part about the police not doing anything. I have a hard time believing that. I've been witness to them taking action for neglect.

 

That nothing is done in the places that are already here is the point.  As I said above not all people who need Sec 8 housing are like that.  However, if you look at Sec 8 housing ANYWHERE the fact of the matter is that these places are rife with the bad element, high crime rates and severe social problems.  If there are already problems in areas that are NOT Sec 8 housing then there are some people with rose colored glasses on who think that even MORE of the same problems or worse won't arise with yet MORE low income housing.  Its not about judging anyone specifically because they live there.  Its just how it is and that element is attracted to a low rent environment where they can't be evicted.  There are exceptions to everything, but a few exceptions does not change the situation.

Would I live in Sec 8 housing if I had no other option?  Of course.  Would I feel like people judge me because I live there?  Probably.  But I would understand why. And I certainly would not plan to live there forever.  An interesting question would be how many people once on Sec 8 housing ever leave it?  I don't think the idea is to live your entire life on Sec 8 housing.  Everyone deserves to live in a place where its safe for their children to play.  Sec 8 housing complex is not it.

I too, am a single mom raising two children as my husband died 3 years ago.  But before I had children, we made sure we were financially set.  I went to nursing school (paid for by myself via student loans and grants).  I used birth control  to be sure I didn't have kids before we were ready. There was planning involved in having children at a time when we were mature enough and set financially enough so I didn't have work full time.  We made sure we had life insurance so that if my husband died, we would be able to pay off the house and not be homeless.  It's called financial and life planning.  But what I see now is too many girls getting pregnant young, not having any work skills and having to raise a child in poverty. And what happens to the father--he takes off.  Then comes in welfare and Sec 8 to help bail these women out.  They are very necessary programs as is job training.  But what really needs to be done is classes offered in 9th/10 grade that discusses how to plan your life--make goals, get job training so you can support your family if something happens to dad, don't have anymore children than you can afford, don't have kids until you are mature and financially ready, what life insurance is etc. as some parents are not teaching this necessary life skills. High schools need to offer birth control to teens to prevent teen pregnancy.

And I feel for you Xyla--raising a child in poverty is not what you wanted when you gave birth.  You probably had visions of taking him to Disneyland and the beach and camping. But now, you don't have the resources and it is you and the child that loses out. But what can we do to break this cycle?

Sec 8 unfortunately bring in some undesirables.  And as for the "code enforcer" Sec 8 does not pay for him.  Our tax dollars from the city of Tehachapi does, per prior posts from someone who works for Palmdale in Sec 8.

Yes, I too would probably be in your shoes had we not planned out our life.  After my husband died, the first 3 years were difficult.

I think Xyla got her feelings hurt.  Pointing out to her that "Common Knowledge", should have made her realize that?  C'mon. I know that sometimes the way a person means for things to sound and the way it actually sounds when written, can be misunderstood.  So, I'm assuming countygirl, that you didn't mean for it to come out the way it sounded. 

I feel really bad for people who find themselves in a bad situation.  Sometimes, it's really hard to pull yourself out of it.  It makes me appreciate the fact that I am fortunate to have the things I have.  To have a good job and a husband who provides as well.  I'm hoping everything works out for you Xyla

Scottso, I believe Section 8 housing, is the same as any other rental agreement.  I could be wrong.  You are better at this than I am.  As a community, we all need to stick together and contact the Housing Authority if things aren't being dealt with according to their standards.  (Or is this wishful thinking on my part).  : )

http://www.lawhelp.org/docu...

  

 I deleted it. I didn't mean for it to come off harsh, but I guess it did. I just don't understand why people take things to heart when they don't have to.  I think everyone here knew we weren't lumping everyone together. No one said that ALL people that use section 8 are bad people. Of course no one is going to judge Xyla because she obviously really needs assistance. 

Some reading this may think I'm sitting on my throne pointing down and judging all. The truth is I applied for low income housing about 7 years ago. I know how hard it can be. Was I ashamed of it? No. We qualified and we needed help. Did we get in? No. There was a two year waiting list. I remember driving up in our beat up LTD that had no air and a door that didn't work, and looking at all the expensive cars sitting in the parking spaces, thinking how can these people afford these cars. My hubby and I....we made it work. He kept applying and got a better job, and then an even better one. :)  I worked for as long as I could before I had our first child. I am truly thankful that we didn't end up living in those complexes. We learned a lot that year about making due with what we had. It has really helped us stay within our means and keep us debt free. Would I still have the same attitude if I had lived in those complexes. Yup, because you can't deny facts.

posted by gube on Nov 8, 2007 at 08:06 AM <Delete>  you people talk about the poor like their cancer. not all poor people are drug dealers and drug addicts. People are funny. They will give food and money at Christmas's time to help the needy and poor and then blog about them being bad people that we need to be afraid of. Shame. Gube, Does this include you as well? Where exactly do you stand on this? posted by gube on Nov 5, 2007 at 09:28 PM <Delete> DonMar.  I agree with you that sec 8 is not in Tehachapi's best interest. You have a way with words. I don't get the sec 8 , hospital comparison. You sound angry. Don't be angry be happy.

Countygirl.....more Sec 8 is not what i want to see in teh. for many of the reasons already listed.I hope that who ever manages the Apt's runs the place with a iron hand. I think that there will be more good people living there then bad people. I was reacting to the tone this post took on. To me it sounded like many of you where lumping all sec 8 together with the druggies and murderers, And i felt that was unfair. It doesn't really matter what i think because from what i have heard the new sec 8 is a done deal. Like i have already mentioned it all depends on the management and right now I'm going to go with that

Well I apologize if I sounded like one of those who were "lumping all sec 8 together with the druggies and murders."  That was not my intention and thats certainly not true.  I just feel particularly strongly about keeping the crime rate low around here and bringing in the sec 8 jeopardizes that in a big way.  One of the reason we left the last place we lived was because of the gangs and crimes in the area and I don't want to see that happen here.

Gube and DonMar must be the same person.  This conversation is too hokey for words.  Seems OU812 is as well.

If I didn't know better I would think you both are one and the same person.  I don't see these kind of remarks from the rest of the people out here.  Multiple personalities posting from one person.  This sounds strangely familiar.  You even carry on a conversation with yourself on another blog.  Shame on you!

what ever Robert but how do we know your not Don Mar or ou812. you all showed up here on the blog at about the same time.hhmmm

Because you're the one that keeps coming up with the rude and sarcastic comments.  So back at 'cha bud.

bye bye

Dude get over yourself.  You're not lord of the blogs.

Robert from now on you may call me SIR GUBE

To tell you the truth I am RobertPrice and OU812.  Robert is my real name but I hate myself and make post as OU812. It is interesting that when more then one person disagrees with people they assume that it must be one person with more then one profile. That takes a big ego don't you think. God forbid that more then one person disagrees with you. :(