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countygirl - > Wake up Tehachapi !! -> Sec.8 - Does anyone know??
Sec.8 - Does anyone know??
Does anyone know if the Sec.8 was approved? I just noticed( on the agenda) that there were some complexes approved to be built off of Pinion. Does anyone know if these will be Sec. 8? I've been looking at  homes around in that area and if this was going to be in the area I wouldn't consider moving there. Any info would be helpful. Thank You!
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posted by countygirl on Friday, November 2, 2007 at 12:59 PM
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posted by GregL on Nov 10, 2007 at 10:50 AM
The Special Provision UFART says it all: Unrestricted Farting Around Regular Terrestrials.

I was granted this provision because my farts don't stink (generally).

Where's Trouble?
posted by Joty on Nov 10, 2007 at 11:36 AM

Ah, but I did read it in the context of the original blog. I think my question was valid. The cycle hasn't been broken. History always repeats itself. Humankind is too stupid to learn from past mistakes.

"You get what you settle for." - Louise to Thelma in Thelma and Louise

Greg, my brother can knock a buzzard off a Benz honey wagon at 100 paces. I guess that's why he didn't get that special provision.

posted by trouble on Nov 10, 2007 at 11:40 AM
yo you miss me GregL, i miss u to. whats going on bro.you know were i come from a good fart is often mistaken something else (if you know what i mean).Havn't been around lately I've been off doing my own thang. Man i take ofence to you azz holes that talk bad for sec 8. i was born and raised in sec 8 housing and look how i turned out, not bad huh. i'm tellin ya i'll make a good nieghbor as long as you mind you own bussness and you don't make any calls to the cops. it aint non of your bussness what happens over at my pad,why, because its my place not yours. and if you do call the cops well, let me put it this way. it wont be pretty. i got freinds that got freinds that are scummyer then me. so remember mind your own bussness.
posted by trouble on Nov 10, 2007 at 11:44 AM

i can see through mountains watch me disappear, i can even touch the sky-------FLYING HIGH AGAIN by OZZY OSBOURNE. 

posted by trouble on Nov 10, 2007 at 11:55 AM

I've listened to preachers, I've listened to fools, I've listened to drop outs that make their own rules.........CRAZY TRAIN BY OZZY OSBOURNE

posted by pgmurphy on Nov 10, 2007 at 11:38 PM
I can lump Section in one category.  When I go to house after house and see violation after violation in these section 8 homes, I as a tax payer get annoyed.  You Xyla32 might be that one percent that this program is supposed to work for, but what about the other 99%.  Should we all have to suffer just so you can get subsidized housing.  Not only are these problems in the neighborhoods where the section 8 are, but it flows into our schools, shopping centers, parks and other area.  I can say from experience that children are being arrested in schools, parks and other areas that are from sect 8 homes.  This is not just a few cases here and there.  It has become an epidemic.  The people I deal with on sect 8 are from the inner cities that don't have the same values that we have out here.  Section 8 should only be a temporary thing, but it has become a way of life.  It's a system that to many people take advantage of without any checks and balances.  I deal with section 8 in the Palmdale/Lancaster area.  Anyone in Law enforcement can tell you Section 8 is out of control and causes the majority of the problems in the area.  One section 8 homes cause all the friends, families and yes gang members to come into the area.
posted by olivia on Nov 11, 2007 at 12:18 AM
Section 8, however, does  not have to be bad thing. There are plenty of families who are wanting a better life for their kids.  I'm absolutely appalled that in this country, you can have 2 or 3 incomes and still be considered "low income".  I was considered low income for many years.  I happened to catch a lucky break is all.  When a person has to work 2 or 3 jobs just to make ends meet, where is the time it takes to raise your kids?  I don't have my "rose colored" glasses on.  I know that there are plenty of people out there who are unwilling to work or raise their kids properly.  Those are the people that should be held accountable.  Section 8 housing is no different than renting any other apartment or house.  There is a lease with rules.  If you break the rules or terms of the lease, they should get an eviction notice.  It's not hard to find applicants.  The list is long for Section 8.  The manager of such places can't be intimidated by these people and must uphold the terms of the lease.  You can drive by any section 8 housing and find out which are being managed and which aren't.  In those cases, you can blame the management as much as you can blame the tenants.  It should be brought to the attention of the housing authority. 
posted by pgmurphy on Nov 11, 2007 at 08:33 AM
The problem with that Olivia is that no one is doing those checks.  The cities of Palmdale and Lancaster have paid for their own investigator to do just that.  Section 8 is not willing to do it and they fight with the investigators when the problems are pointed out.  It is starting to get better but I think for those 2 cities the battle is over and they lost.  Renters don't complain because they get free rent.  Owners don't complain because they get higher rent from section 8 in the mail every month.  Section 8 doesn't complain because the more housing they give out, the bigger their agency becomes and they sure don't want to point out the problems.  It's a win win situation for everyone but the neighbors and community.  How long should people get section 8?.  Why doesn't section 8 have time limits?  Why are people on section 8 for years, along with welfare and other subsidized incomes.  I have even seen people getting checks from the government for taking care of their own Grandparents.  One house I went in was getting money for a house cleaner, though the house was one of the dirtiest I have ever been in.  I have heard over and over women saying they get Section 8 because they are single mothers and can't work.  Why is it that a single mother can't work?  I also know several single mothers that work and pay their own rent.  There are other reason people make up just to stay on section 8 as well as welfare.
posted by leesparrowhawk on Apr 22, 2008 at 09:40 PM

Sadly our town already has more than its fair share of gangs and drug addicts. They have very little in common with low-income families in need of affordable housing.

You say "We already have our share of low income housing in Tehachapi". We actually have only 15 units across the street from K-mart. There are several apartments available for seniors there ,but only 15 for low-income and/or disabled. There are already severe restrictions on Section 8 - which is NOT what is being built.

These new family homes are NOT being built to 'bring folks to our town". They are being built for folks who are already here and struggling to survive - Families that need and deserve to be able to pay their rent and feed their children at the same time.

There is much more to low-income and affordable housing than just Section 8 and gangs from Lancaster. Please educate yourself on the real needs of our town before you reply.

Lee

 

posted by RebekahsMommy on Apr 22, 2008 at 11:18 PM

I for one think that Section 8/Low income housing is a good idea. I totally disagree that it will attract "prisoners families" who dont care about anything. Just because you are classified as a low income family does not mean your a drug addict or criminal. If that were the case then Alot of our senior citizen poulation would fall into that category. Would you want your parents to be grouped like that.

On the topic of Welfare. There is an office in Mojave, There is a bus that goes from Tehachapi to Mojave and Lancaster and another one that goes from here to Bakersfield. Transportation is not as bad as some think. There should be opportunities available to ALL in this town. Not just the "select" few that some people want. Every Human deerves to be able to have a roof over their heads and to provide a home for their children.

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