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Innocent until proven guilty?
Yes this is another blog about the depot fire. So I'm just wondering what the deal is here. I have been told that they are waiting to make arrests because they want to make sure they have all the evidence they need. I'm sorry, but I can't get over the fact that these guys names haven't been released. They are doing it for their protection..........you're kidding me right. Here's the thing that really gets me though the TN has reported multiple times that two men shooting illegal fireworks were responsible for the fire that destroyed the depot. One article even said that the two men confessed to shooting illegal fireworks that resulted in the destruction of the depot. , and yet still no charges. So what is it? Is it just irresponsible reporting on the TN's part or is it common knowledge that these guys are directly responsible for the depot fire? I for one am confused because last I checked admitted arsonists don't walk around nameless without any consequences. What's your take on it? 23 comments from 10 users
posted by
storilori
on Jul 11, 2008 at 01:09 AM
Exactamoondo Countygirl, something is definitely amiss. For some reason, if it was I, who had actually burnt down Tehachapi's beloved Depot, in a misfortunate drunkenness, that my name would be a household one. In other words my name would be.."Mudd." Come on! posted by
GregL
on Jul 11, 2008 at 06:03 AM
Yes it does seem pretty ridiculous. It's not like we're trying to solve a 20 year old murder case! There's absolutely no facts coming out on a relatively simple case. I'd like to know what's happening too! posted by
ProgressoDasani
on Jul 11, 2008 at 06:22 AM
My take is that the fireworks these men may have been shooting off hours earlier had nothing to do with the fire. I've always thought it extremely unlikely that the fire started the way it was claimed. Maybe they're trying to pin it on Kelcy Owens... posted by
Smokey
on Jul 11, 2008 at 07:03 AM
It seems to me that the two men involved must either work for the city or somehow be tied to the city enough so that everyone involved has kept their lips sealed. Suprising since nothing else seems to stay a secret for long in this little town. I think in most instances where the police have enough evidence to charge someone, they will. They will be reluctant to bring charges against someone if they know they will only be dropped or if they don't have enough evidence to support a conviction, Maybe they are lacking in evidence here. That could explain the lack of information or updates on this situation. I suppose it could always be option 3. They're read all the blogs on the TN and are in fear that if they post the names the poor fellows will be hung by the testicles and stoned to death. ........lol posted by
mimi
on Jul 11, 2008 at 07:43 AM
posted by
olivia
on Jul 11, 2008 at 07:55 AM
I've said this numerous times....the first article was 2 teens confessed. What was that all about? Then all of a sudden 2 men (ages were reported, not names) confessed. OK, if it was an accident, then report it as such. But charge them with something use of illegal fireworks, damages....something. I mean, I've seen the legal system work, it doesn't take THIS long for the DA to pick up charges. It also said that these men had long ties to the community, one having a family. And....... It seems as if someone is hiding something or hoping that maybe this will just be brushed under the carpet. If it were an accident I, myself, can accept that. Unfortunate accidents happen, but there are also consequences for such devastating accidents. posted by
ProgressoDasani
on Jul 11, 2008 at 08:14 AM
Well eXcuse me, mimi! If you don't think it was funny, feel free not to laugh. Now if I'd suggested it was Jason Caudle and Stan Beckham and included a thong photo, would THAT have been funny? posted by
olivia
on Jul 11, 2008 at 08:16 AM
posted by
perdurabo
on Jul 11, 2008 at 08:19 AM
I think I'm with Progresso on this (not the Kelcy part). Of course just a gut feeling, but I think the oil staining rags are more of a likely culprit than fireworks. They said they had a new metal box to place the used rags in after they already had a small fire caused by them. It only takes one or two oiled rags left in a corner to start a pretty good fire. They are probably looking at both possibilities, and don't want to ruin the two guy's names in town until everything is solid. posted by
olivia
on Jul 11, 2008 at 08:24 AM
Oil stained rags are more likely to be the culprit? How could that be at 3am? Spontaneous combustion? posted by
perdurabo
on Jul 11, 2008 at 08:49 AM
Yes, spontaneous combustion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... "Boiled linseed oil in a partially confined space (such as a pile of oil-soaked rags left out in an uncovered container) can evaporate leading to a buildup of heat and thus ignition."
posted by
olivia
on Jul 11, 2008 at 08:53 AM
Wow....I had no idea. I guess that could be one possibility. That would explain the two small fires that the Kelcy waitress had to put out. posted by
perdurabo
on Jul 11, 2008 at 09:00 AM
Olivia, yes, this was probably the case, and I belive one of the newpaper articles stated that. I believe the "finishing" touches they were putting on the depot before the grand opening was staining the floors. Either way, it was a very unfortunate accident. I'm not sure if law enforcement will end up pinning it on anyone, but I can guarantee once everything plays out, the insurance company will be going after somebody to reclaim their losses. Hopefully it is not one of the volunteers who worked on the project. Local law enforcement and the group rebuilding the depot would have pity for that person, but not the insurance company. posted by
GregL
on Jul 11, 2008 at 09:04 AM
Yes, unfortunately, spontaneous combustion is a real and not so rare an occurrence. Many home fires are a result of oily and/or stain rags left in a pile in a garage. And if the garage gets hot, then you're just making it even easier for it to happen. Putting those rags in a metal container (with a lid) is good, putting them in a water filled metal container is even better.
posted by
countygirl
on Jul 11, 2008 at 09:16 AM
I agree that the spontaneous combustion is a serious possibility, but that is exactly what I was getting at. If they aren't sure what exactly started the fire why has it been reported over and over again that fireworks were responsible for the fire? |