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Big Mouth Mayor puts town in harm's way Sarah Palin is a cold blooded killer.......... Palin is a wack-job Open Letter to John McCain: America Needs "Bailout" from Illegal Immigration Bird Feeder Link to Bush still hurting McCain, poll finds A question for Shane Reed California May Grant Illegal Aliens Driver's Licenses McCAIN Likeeee......yum!!!! Illegal immigrants voluntarily going back to Mexico as US economy crashes August 07 September 07 October 07 November 07 December 07 January 08 February 08 March 08 April 08 May 08 June 08 July 08 August 08 September 08 October 08 Hi my name is gube.......I hate illegal aliens..............I love Americans..........
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McCain’s opposition to licenses for illegal immigrants could deliver California
McCains stance on illegal immigration is weak. He pretty much supports Amnesty. Believe me if this short armed fool becomes President Illegals will get their licenses to drive before his first term is up. Sen. John McCain’s opposition to driver’s licenses for illegal immigrants could help him win California, according to Roger Simon of Politico. Simon says that giving driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants is unpopular in California. “Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger successfully exploited opposition to such driver’s licenses in both of his elections, and McCain would have a shot at winning California by exploiting it also,” Simon says. This would only work however, if Sen. Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee. Obama supports giving driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants. Sen. Hillary Clinton opposes it. To read more, click here. http://www.statesman.com/bl...
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posted by
scottso
on Apr 10, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Unfortunately all the candidates stance on illegal immigration is pretty much amnesty. None of them are willing to step up and do the right thing even if it might be unpopular. I don't understand this at all. If you belive in amnesty then you believe there should be no such thing as borders. I defy anyone to argue differently with any semblence of logic or rationality. If you don't believe in borders, then how can you call yourself an American, or any other nationality for that matter. How ironic that you can live in this country and call yourself an African American or Mexican American, German American or Italian American, or (insert your "nation of heritage" here) American, and then turn around and blast anyone against illegal immigration, who can't or won't hyphenate their nationality, as a racist for asking for more rights for being a natural citizen -- a citizen who pays taxes, who defends their country and doesn't make an irrelevent distinction between being an American and where they or their family originates from. If you don't believe in borders, then you can't be "African" or "Mexican" or any other nationality. Sorry but you don't get it both ways. I've never heard of African-British, Mexican-French or Italian-Dutch being used to describe citizens of any other country. Why is that do you think? And before you tag me as some racist American, be aware that I'm first generation American on my mother's side, and third on my fathers. So I'm quite aware of what it means to be an immigrant to the U.S.A. And I'm proud to be a citizen of this country. And I'm VERY proud that my family has done it LEGALLY and the right way. And I'm proud that my parents KNOW what it means to do it the right way and what it actually means to be a citizen of the U.S.A., and that they instilled those values in me. posted by
oohchild
on Apr 11, 2008 at 11:16 AM
Scottso asks, "I've never heard of African-British, Mexican-French or Italian-Dutch being used to describe citizens of any other country. Why is that do you think?" You might find this article interesting: http://www.thisislondon.co.... "Sir Bernard added that minorities preferred the term British because it can be combined with their own ethnic or racial terms such as British Pakistani or British African." Seems like they do use a combination of ethnic background & home country in order to describe themselves.
posted by
Smokey
on Apr 11, 2008 at 12:17 PM
I was born in the Uk and this is the first time I have ever heard those terms being used "British Pakistani or British African" etc. I tend to believe Nigels comment on that article "whoever dreams up the questions gets the answers he wants."
posted by
scottso
on Apr 11, 2008 at 12:21 PM
That is interesting. Prior to the part you quote he says, ''To the immigrant, Britishness is essentially a legal and political structure. It doesn't mean the culture." and also, "When the immigrant says I am British, he is not saying he wants to be English or Scottish or Welsh. Britishness does not threaten their own culture. It is not an all-embracing term." The part I find really interesting in that article is this line: "The study charts a steady decline in the sense of Britishness." Which would seem to imply that those titles are, indeed, divisive and dilute the sense of nationality. I wonder if this is common to just England and the U.S.A.? I googled a bit but couldn't find any other information like that. posted by
oohchild
on Apr 11, 2008 at 03:19 PM
I would think that countries with a large influx of immigrants (like the USA & Britain) would all have a way of distinguishing different cultures by ethnic identity. More homogeneous countries like Japan probably don't have a need for these distinctions (at least I didn't notice any when I was there), but in their culture one can tell the difference among Korean, Chinese, Japanese, and other Asian populations. I wonder if the British note the different parts of the country they come from (Wales, Scotland, England) like we note the different states we come from, and in so doing there's a certain prejudice that comes with that area? Y'know, like how some people have a list of things "you must be" in order to live in California (liberal, tree-hugging vegetarian), or Texas (gun-toting, truck drivin' redneck.) So, they're British like we're American. While I'm proud to be an American, I still identify as a Californian, too. In fact, it was probably more like that before the Civil War; people more identified with the state they were from, not as being strictly "American."
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