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jewels - > -> Sam's Suspicious Death
Sam's Suspicious Death
So my question would be to the law enforcement involved...will you just brush Sam's "suspicious" death under the rug, because he had a record,was homeless and an addict? Will it be less important to you that he wasnt an "upstanding" citizen or someone of importance to the community? I do believe that even if the "law enforcement" will represent on the outside that they are doing their best to solve this crime, if in fact it is a crime. But i believe that if Sam was someone who lived a better lifestyle, KCSD and TPD would work around the clock to solve this. Unlike the double homicide that took place a few years ago, or the murder of that woman in the middle of the day, those were swept under the rug. I mean you dont even see any news follow ups to try and revitalize any clues or information to help solve those crimes. And the comment before mine...i agree, most of the people who complain are lawbreakers, i am one of those who was a lawbreaker...just like Sam. I know for a fact that law enforcement treat people who are addicts like complete TRASH. I am clean 3 years now...thank God, but I am human now and i was human then. I hope the KCSD NEVER have any children that fall into the life of addiction...I would hate for them to treat their own children like GARBAGE..(oh...nevermind...they would receive special treatment) I have heard KCSD snicker and crack jokes and make fun of people who have been arrested...its really not funny. Its humiliating enough to be in that situation as it is. I have also been in court proceedings and watched KCSD and Child protective service rep, LIE UNDER OATH to gain a conviction. Not to say that ALL law enforcement officers are like that...but I know of a few that dehumanize people for a lively hood.
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posted by jewels on Oct 2, 2007 at 11:38 AM
havent heard a thing.  I should probably call his sister.  If i hear anything i will let you know
posted by Colitas on Oct 2, 2007 at 11:26 AM
Jewels, have there been any updates on Sam's death?
posted by jewels on Oct 2, 2007 at 10:46 AM
Love you Big Dog
posted by bigdog on Oct 2, 2007 at 10:33 AM
well said Jewels................ :)
posted by jewels on Oct 2, 2007 at 10:26 AM

Stacey, I know you.  You know me.  Um we used to hang out together.  You will figure it out.  Anyway.  I attend meetings all the time.  ALL THE TIME.  I have 3 years clean.  The thing is you need to find meetings where there is recovery.  When a person shares at a meeting it is SUPPOSED to be about sharing your experience strength and hope, not war stories. But the real recovery you will find is when you work the steps with a sponsor.  Man I am telling you what it CHANGED MY LIFE.  You saw me at the Caboose with my family singing kareoke, you saw how good I was doing.  I am telling you right now if you find the right meetings there in you will find a great support group.  I too left but i moved to a place where i surrounded myself with people who are in recovery and live their lives to the fullest.  Just RUNNING AWAY will not work.  Believe me if i was just skipping town and didnt do anything else, I would eventually find "my kind of people".  I had to change everything. EVERYTHING, I had to change me!! Give it a try.  My life is full of blessings and i am so grateful God saw fit to save me.

 

Stacey~If you have NEVER been to a meeting why dont you give it a try before you condemn it. :)

posted by staceytrunkey on Oct 2, 2007 at 10:00 AM
I myself never have been to AA, NA or any other support group. Being around a bunch of people recovering is like being around a bunch of dry drunks. Just a bunch of clean tweekers talking about how much dope they used and where they got the best stuff from. From my own experience which wasnt all that long ago, if you have a drug problem leave. Go some where else anywhere else. Where you dont know any one. Make a clean break, I did. But now that I have been clean for nearly a year I am most afraid of the peices that I am yet picking up. I have a good life now. Good friends and a great man who supports me through it all. But now I have to go back to Kern County to go to court for a failure to appear on possesion of drug paraphnelia. So thats just great! I really am not ready to go anywhere close to Tehachapi in fear that I may just want to stop in and say hello to some old so called friends and I really dont want to take that chance. Besides I dont want to end up going to jail, who does. I need to finish cleaning up the mess that I made of my old life so I can continue living this beautiful life that I was fortunate enough to find. If I can change... Any one can!
posted by jewels on Sep 17, 2007 at 03:41 PM

My blog began a few days after Sam died.  So these are NOT rumors, they were printed in the paper.  Check the date on this blog.  and read the blog. No one said sam was MURDERED.  Geez.  Anyway if you knew Sam for 10 years anon, I probably know you.  As a matter of fact i can almost be positive i do.  Also, going to AA and working a program are 2 different things.  YOu can go to AA your whole life and have no recovery.  Just be a bitter dry drunk, who has NO compassion.  Or you can work steps and change who you are which really is the whole point of "going to AA".  I personally have worked my steps and i know Sam and other people like him have choices and he made his.  I was just concerned that law enforcement WOULD TAKE THE SAME approach as you do ANON and treat him like he deserved what he got IF IN FACT his death was suspicious.  Thank God you are not in law enforcement and arent assigned to any case that may need some care and compassion.  Despite Sam's disease, HIS FAMILY, are the ones that deserve answers.  If they ruled it wasn't a murder, then so be it.  Man Anonymous, you are a member of the fellowship?  I hope you never relapse, because you have obviously forgotten where you came from, better than, holier than thou, i will never use again.....If you have ever read the book you will know that your disease is waiting right around the corner for you, hope you work a good program. 

posted by anonymous on Sep 17, 2007 at 03:18 PM

I THINK WHEN ALL IS SAID SAM 'S DEATH WILL BE A RESULT OF THE CHOICES THAT HE MADE. THE POLICE HAS CAME OUT AND SAID THAT SAMS DEATH WAS NOT A HOMICIDE. ON JULY 20 THE TEHACHAPI NEWS RAN THE STORY TELLING SO. I DON'T KNOW WHY SOME PEOPLE CHOSE TO CONTINUE SPREADING THESE RUMORS THAT SAM WAS KILLED.

posted by eekitsaspider on Sep 17, 2007 at 02:52 PM

What if you were Sam and your death was considered "suspisous"? Wouldn't you want the truth to be told about how you died? And IF someone murdered you wouldn't you want justice served? I know I would...

posted by anonymous on Sep 17, 2007 at 02:38 PM
I KNEW SAM. HE WAS MY FRIEND FOR TEN YEARS.DO I FEEL BAD ABOUT SAMS DEATH, YES I DO. HECK THERE WAS A TIME THAT COULD OF BEEN ME. I GOT LUCKY AND GOT CLEAN. I KNOW I SOUND LIKE A HEARTLESS HARD A--. BUT I TALK FROM EXPERIENCE. I GO TO AA. IF A GUY STRUGGLING WITH ADDICTION WALKS INTO AA I ALONG WITH MANY,MANY OTHER RECOVERING ALCOHOLICS AND ADDICTS WELL BE THERE TO HELP THE ONE WHO IS STILL SUFFERING.
posted by eekitsaspider on Sep 17, 2007 at 02:34 PM

I think anon is missing the point to this blog all together.. It is not about druggies or if they get help or not... It is about an innocent man's life that could of possibly been taken by the hands of a criminal. Drug addict or not this man Sam deserves to have the facts out about his death, and if there was foul play then there is justice that needs to be served. Jewels I feel only wants answers for the death of this man.

As for the other deaths in Tehachapi, yes there should be more updates. I would love for them to catch the final person who killed those 2 men and the lady and get justice served. I lived right next door to the double murder, and I would love  nothing more than to see the persons responsible for the deaths to pay. I do not care if the deaths of those two men were over  $100 worth of drugs or not, they did not deserve to die over it..

p.s. anon maybe if you actually read what countygirl is saying you would have a diffrent prospective....

posted by countygirl on Sep 17, 2007 at 02:21 PM

I'LL SUPPORT SOMEONE TRYING TO GET CLEAN ALL I CAN BUT FOR SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO USE I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT 

 

While I may not agree with everything you say I do understand and agree with this.

posted by anonymous on Sep 17, 2007 at 02:16 PM
IF A ADDICT SEEKS HELP HE WILL FIND THE SUPPORT HE NEEDS IN AA OR NA. THE PROBLEM IS THAT MOST ADDICTS DO NOT WANT TO STOP DOING DRUGS. YOU CANT FORCE A DOPER TO GET CLEAN. THEY WELL ONLY GET CLEAN WHEN THERE BACKS ARE AGAINST THE WALL AND THEY GET TIERED OF HURTING THERE LOVE ONES AND THEM SELF'S. I'LL SUPPORT SOMEONE TRYING TO GET CLEAN ALL I CAN BUT FOR SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO USE I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT 
posted by anonymous on Sep 17, 2007 at 02:05 PM

SAM SURE DID NOT DIE OF A GUN SHOT WOUND DID HE. 100 DOLLARS OF METH IS WHY CLYDE DIED IS WHAT THE NEWSPAPER REPORTED. DO YOU READ THE PAPER OR DO YOU JUST BELIVE ALL THE RUMORS FROM OTHER TWEEKERS THAT YOU TALK TO..I HAVE COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT THEMSELFS.WHAT MAKES SOCIETY BAD IS DRUGGIES.

posted by countygirl on Sep 17, 2007 at 01:51 PM
You don't have to lecture me about addicts. I know all about them! Also where exactly did I say that doing drugs were OK and that I feel sorry for them? I said they need SUPPORT to stay clean and overcome addiction. Not support about taking the drugs...what kind of moron do you think I am? For future reference.... Support in my book is .....taking them to AA or NA meetings if needed, letting them vent out frustrations when needed, not drinking around them, being available to call if they feel an overwhelming urge, telling them like it is......Do not go hang out with that person or go over to that house, bar, etc., or chewing their a$$ off when they want to quit! IOW not being afraid to be the a-hole!
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