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One Ambulance for too many people
This week in the Bakersfield Californian there was an article about the Kern Board of Supervisors looking at ambulance response times in the county. Tehachapi area response times are lacking at best. The greater Tehachapi area has increased its population and yet there is still only one ambulance for all our citizens. This is only due to the fact the the Kern Board and Bakersfield City has allowed a monopoly for ambulance service provided by Bakersfield Mayor Harvey Halls company. What this means for us in Tehachapi is that when you need an ambulance you better hope you are the first in line. The current plan calls for back up from Arvin or Mojave but often times two or more calls happen and the patient is forced, sometimes fatally to wait for Advanced life support care. If you live in the outer communities like Stallion Alpine or Bear Valley you are waiting 15 to 20 minutes no matter what your problem is. This is purely unacceptable we need another ambulance to match the growth of the community. The only reason we do not have an additional unit now is so Mayor Hall can maximize profits you wait and he gets paid while paying out as little as possible. Please everyone create discussion and call supervisor Mayben about this topic. If you plan to live out your life in Tehachapi at some time you will need emergency service will you wait on the floor like many do now? or help bring about change?
73 comments from 19 users
posted by
anonymous
on Dec 5, 2006 at 06:37 AM
Its really sad how the private EMS services work. The same thing happened in Cal City when they staffed a EMS helicopter. The community desperately need a helicopter and no private ambulance service would move in until Cal City FD was proactive and staffed their own. Guess what happened next!!!!! a private co. moved in to give them competition. Why do we have one company with a monopoly in Kern Co. shouldn't another ambulance company be able to come here if Hall wont provide needed service.
posted by
tehachapidad
on Dec 5, 2006 at 06:52 AM
citylady- I know that they move engines up. I was just simply stating that why these engines are being moved up what are we to do if we don't have any coverage? I understand all that. I know what the thread is about as well. I was addressing some things brought up by others in this thread. Believe me I want more ambulances up here as well. oldtehachapinative- I feel for you and having a bad experience. Did you file a complaint with Hall? No person deserves bad service. Rage- I dont agree with you on Fire Medics and there wallets. Yes I agree that they get paid more than private medics do, but you get good & bad no matter where you go and EMS is unfortunately one of them. Its a dog eat dog world and I can say that not all private medics love there jobs. Thats why the medics & EMT's use private ambulance for stepping stones to county and city fire jobs. Lets just all get back to the real point and see what can happen if we all stick together and get Hall to get another 24 hour ambulance up in Tehachapi or better yet Golden Hills. It will benefit us all!!! posted by
mrguy
on Dec 5, 2006 at 08:50 PM
OK, seems to me there are a few bloggers on this site that have obviously been brainwashed by Harvey Hall. Harvey Hall leads by fear and intimidation, suppresses the work force and has the lowest paid employees (in comparasion by company size) on the West Coast. This County needs to come into the 21st century. Why does the local ambulance dictator think that the ambulance providers have the right to have the only ALS (for those not in the EMS industry ALS refers to a paramedic level of patient care) services in the County. Back in the seventies when EMT's were the latest trend in EMS they didn't just train a few guys to the EMT level then leave the rest at an advanced first-aid level. No, they trained everyone to the EMT level. I don't know how many times I've been on calls with multiple ALS patients and only one Hall paramedic was on scene. Which patient do you think got adequate patient care? Right, none of them because the only medic on scene was overtaxed. I'm not saying that the ambulance companies should not provide paramedic services, just that we need more of them in the field. Any ambulance responding on 911 calls in the County should be at a minimum at the paramedic level. Imagine that same call with multiple ALS patients, with ambulance medics and fire medics all patients would get good ALS patient care. The first in ambulance could even begin transport of some of the patients without delay before additional ambulances arrived. The problem is with Harvey and his perceived power of having the only paramedics on scene. If we are to bring this County out of the back woods era this mentality needs to go away. Unfortunatly I don't think anything will change until Hall gets out of the ambulance business. Sorry I got of of the subject of the blog but that needed to be said. If you want more ambulances based in the Tehachapi Valley all you have to do is push for Fire Paramedic services and Harv will put another ambulance up here. Cal City Fire started ALS services on their engine and Hall put another ambulance in Cal City. The citizens of Pine Mountain Club were pushing for a Fire based paramedic and Harv put an ambulance in Pine Mountain Club. So get on the phone and start making calls in support of Fire Department Paramedic services and it won't be long before there's another ambulance based in Tehachapi. Yes, I used to work for Hall (I was a medic at 20 too, Shane). Yes, I'm now in the fire service. Yes, I feel like I have my hands tied behing my back by Mr. Hall when I'm waiting for 30 minutes for his ambulance to arrive. posted by
anonymous
on Dec 6, 2006 at 06:30 AM
Mr Guy, You are right. Many times Paramedics are over overwhelmed on a scene of a call with several critical patients. Its part of the job. You know that. The thing is that it is not just in Halls response area. I have worked for Liberty Ambulance in Ridgecrest, and many a times the "One" medic on scene was overwhelmed with multiple patients while the second ambulance was waiting to be staffed by someone coming from there house to the ambulance station. The same thing is possible in Wasco with Kern Ambulance who sometimes has to rely on Hall Ambulance out of Shafter or Delano Ambulance out of Delano to be backup on a call. Lake Isabella has Care Ambulance and who responds up into Tulare County while sometimes leaving the whole lake area unprotected. And they have patients who have to wait for 30-40 minutes for sometimes just the first ambulance in the Lake Isabella area including Kernville/Weldon to be staffed by backup crews from home. People need to realize that it is not just a Tehachapi problem. It is a county wide problem!! We need to have a definite second unit full time in Tehachapi and I think the KCFD/Bakersfield City/Tehachapi City/Taft City FD need to all have Firefighter/ Medics on there engines/trucks. California City has Firefighter/Medics and they do a great job! They use Hall for transport, but still have patient contact. I know that in Lancaster/Palmdale there are times when LA County FD is on scene of a medical aid waiting 20-30 minutes for a AMR unit because all of AMR's units in the Antelope Valley are on calls and there backup is coming from Santa Clarita area. And AMR staffs 10-15 units a day down there, with only 2-3 of those ambulances being Paramedic level care. Simply put. Yes Tehachapi needs more Ambulance coverage. The area is getting bigger by the day and we have long out grown our 1 full time ambulance and 1 part time.
posted by
mrguy
on Dec 6, 2006 at 09:52 PM
You're very right, this is County wide problem. I was just using Hall as an example because he has been to loudest political voice in opposition of any paramedic services outside of the private ambulance providers. The mentality of the single medic just needs to go away. It's just a power thing with the private ambulance companies in Kern County. They think that if there are public agency paramedics on scene they will loose scene control of patient transport decisions. Who would you rather make the those decisions? A public agency paramedic (who has no monetary connection to where and how the patient is transported) or the private ambulance paramedic (who is under pressure from the owner to make decisions based on revenue). Anyone opposed to better patient care in the field needs to take a closer look at their moral values. This County has a long way to go, but I hope we are headed in the right direction. Where'd ya go Bob (aka Robert), let's debate this issue. posted by
sol2ride
on Dec 6, 2006 at 06:22 PM
The reason Hall is used as an example is because this is TEHACHAPI news and Hall is Tehachapi's service provider. I really don't care about other parts of the county its up to them to fight for their protection. I really care about Tehachapi and the fact that Hall is not on par with the growth of Tehachapi. Firefighter paramedic, another ambulance service, or another Hall unit whatever just get more up here.
posted by
anonymous
on Dec 7, 2006 at 09:11 AM
Tehachapi Bloggers don't care! People are dieing in Tehachapi every month. The newspaper will not do a story. People will call about a wall behind a new store but will not call on this. Bloggers will blog about dogs, bike rides, dumb videos but wont make a post on this important subject. Come on guys this is our town. This is are lives we are talking about.
posted by
anonymous
on Dec 7, 2006 at 06:38 PM
The Bloggers are not really the problem its the leaders of our community and the news paper. This should be FRONT PAGE news. Response time to Stallion Springs, Alpine, and Bear Valley are immoral and unprofessional.
posted by
kulemt
on Dec 9, 2006 at 12:52 AM
I'm not much for adding my feeling on blogs, but I must when I read uneducated claims like the following: "One reason for having your local fire department provide advanced life support is due to the fact that they always arrive before the ambulance." -This statement has no truth whatsoever. Per KCEMS Protocol "Regulations and Policies, Dec. 1, 1993 -Section IX,B,b,3. (found at http://www.co.kern.ca.us/em...), all county providers must be on-scene within a specified time and this must occur in 90% of the calls each company responses to. Response times are based on the location of the call to the ambulance location at "time of call". Within that, all providers must arrive to the call "First-In" or "Arriving with (the Fire Dept.) a certain % of the time, . I was unable to locate this number on the KCEMS site, but I do know that the % is a low number and that Hall Ambulance Service (HAS) mandates that crews arrive on-scene "First-In" or "with Fire" 90% of the time. This "company" policy is met by each Hall Ambulance station throughout the rural areas of Kern County several months through the year. For this the crews get a faxed congratulations from Mr. Hall and Hall Administration. This is our job, we take pride in knowing that our "Boss" expects more from us than the KCEMS regulations require. NO, "they" don't always arrive before US! "Too many times the ambulance will administer treatment and drugs that are not needed and always try to transport even if it is not needed." -I know you speak out of term here sir or madam. Yes, it is true that a patient is billed based on the treatment rendered by the ambulance crew. Anything from the paper sheets used on the gurney to controlled narcotics are tracked base on the paramedics ePCR(Electronic Patient Care Report - Oh by the way, when we transport to AVH or LCH in LA Co., those beloved "fire medics" some of you seem to want, drool over the fact that KC medics complete PCR's on PDA's instead of on triplicate forms. Saving valuable time by allowing the ambulance to return to service because "paperwork" takes minutes, not hours.) If transport is "not needed" don't activate the 911 system. If you should need to utilize the 911 system, rest assured the EMS personal responding from Fire & Ambulance Dept. do this job because we love it. Whether transport is needed or not, at 4pm or 3am, the crews involved will do what is in the "patients'" best interest based on training and KCEMS ( & ACLS) protocols. The fact of the matter is, Hall Ambulance Service tracks and report what are called "Dry Runs" (calls for service that end in a non-transport situation.) to Paramedics on a regular basis. This "Dry Run" % hangs over a crews heads more than any other piece of data. To make a statement such as this is damning to all EMS employees. I've worked for Hall Ambulance Service for more than 4 years in the Eastern Kern County region and have never once provided service to a patient based on cost for any reason. If you activate the 911 System and get my partner & I, you will receive the best care possible based on your medical condition, not the size of your wallet or the medical card you carry. I don't care if you pay HAS, I care that my partner & I make sure you get the best care we can give you and transport you to the appropriate hospital as quickly & safely as possible. "Our Firemen would not do this to us due to the fact that it wont make a difference for their departments budget." -If the Fire Depts. of KC take over ALS care, you can guarantee patient care WILL make a difference on department budgets. A huge benefit to maintaining an ALS level ambulance in a private company is the simple fact that it is much easier for private companies to deploy revenue back into the service and equipment for patient care. Point of fact, HAS is the first, if not only, private company to deploy GPS tracking equipment to ALS (Advance Life Support) & BLS (Basic Life Support) vehicles to provide the fastest care available. The GPS tracking system allows HAS Dispatchers to see, in "real time", where each vehicle is and the distance to a "call" without relying on crew knowledge of where their are on Hwy 58 between Boron & Cal City at 3am on a moonless night. "tehachapidad- If all the County Fire Paramedics where responding to a house fire, they would move a crew to Tehachapi from Bakersfield. Just like they do now." -Not true. KCFD does not "back fill" areas due to structure fires. I do not know policies & procedures for KCFD, I can only speak to what I know from experience working with KCFD. KCFD will back fill an area if the current engine is working on a wildland/grass fire and it is known that engine will be tied up for a long duration. From experience working in a rural area that does provide ALS care from the city's FD, if the FD is "tied up", ECC (KC Dispatch Center) dispatches coverage for the next call for service from a neighboring area. This now puts HAS "first-in", and in the case of an MVA (Motor Vehicle Accident) and the need for patient extrication, the ambulance crew is left to provide patient care in a potentially unsafe environment until the FD and the equipment needed arrive. Now, possibly people reading this blog can see that what is most important. Crews from all KC fire agencies & all KC ambulance services need to work together to provide, to use the words of a former HAS Paramedic Supervisor, "excellent service". To say that one paramedic will provide better care over another due to his or her employer is absurd. I have personal knowledge of paramedics on both sides and can tell you care, unfortunately, falls in the hands of the individual responding to each call. "Private ambulance companies are out to make a buck." -Sir Fireman, I say this with the most respect one can offer without knowing exactly who the author is. DUH! By the definition of the title, a private company MUST make a profit to maintain the level of care the company chooses to provide. We at HAS are fortunate that Mr. Hall wears his heart on his sleeve. He is very motivated to protect his personal name and the company that bares it. HAS provides Mutual-Aid service to ALL neighboring counties, as does all ambulance companies in KC, and can not run an ambulance past 250,000 miles. This policy is put forth by LA Co. Mr. Hall makes every effort to provide his crews with the best equipment possible. The ambulance I am assigned to currently has approx. 225,000 miles. My partner & I and the other 2 crews assigned to this particular ambulance know we'll be getting "a new unit for Christmas" so to speak. If you have a chance to interact with crews from AMR in the AV area, as I do, you'd see how those AMR crews have professional envy when they see "our' new units and the new equipment deployed in HAS units. Equipment starting out with a highly trained crew, the best in ALS equipment & medications and the safest "lights & sirens" available (to move those of you that love to talk on your cells phones while an ambulance is breathing down your taillights trying to get to a call). It is known that most public agencies struggle to provide equipment throughout the an entire area serviced. Look at KCFD Station 15. That station just received a new engine for the area in Rosamond. Up until a new station was built, Rosamond's fire protection was an aging engine that still had crew members sitting in the open air of the hot desert sun. Yes, the main reason was that the previous station could not fit the length that modern engines are constructed to. Why did it take the County FD so long in building Rosamond a new station? Look at the lovely city of California City, the department that Tehachapi has chosen to model our department after. A model department that staffs some very dedicated fire fighters, but has a City Management that was misguided in staffing a full-time air ambulance (at present time, no longer staffed due to reasons not knows by myself.) instead of providing Cal City citizens with a grocery store. The following link lists the equipment that is mandatory for an ambulance company to stock each ALS & BLS unit (http://www.co.kern.ca.us/em...). This mandate could not be met without ANY ambulance company making a profit. In the case of HAS, as I have stated before, we have the benefit of an employer that is driven largely by his ego. This ego is reflected in each and every ambulance that is on the roads of KC. For this, I personally thank Mr. Hall with the opportunity to be proud of the company I work for and the care I am able to render. Don't forget, ye of complaining ways, the profit made by HAS is made from the insurance companies & those patients unfortunate to not have medical coverage. Not anyone else. If local FD become the sole ALS provider, one might wonder what would happen to local & county taxes. Think hard and long before there is a push to take my job and place it in the hands of a red tape laden agency. "Hall had a program and still might, that the Paramedic with the lowest dry runs ( a call where they don't take a person to the hospital) gets a nice prize." -In the 4+ years that I have worked for HAS, this has not been the case. Yes, crews are recognized for a low "dry run" %. This is done at company "all hands" meetings and is used to give what little praise there is for EMS employees. This is not done in a "contest" format and there is no monetary benefit to this recognition. One has to understand, when the 911 System is activated, there is a reasonable expectation from the EMS responder that the activation was made for the intention of rendering medical aid and transportation to a hospital for any reason. Please don't imply that the EMS crews blindly transport a patient so HAS can turn a profit. Perhaps this blog should also be discussing the abuse of the 911 System by citizens. "I was a patient of Halls. The paramedic was a skinny guy with very short hair and glasses. I think it was (name removed because it should never have been used). He never told me his name. The only thing he said to me was that I should have not have called so late at night. 11:45pm He put me in the back of the ambulance and we parked in my driveway for 20 minutes. When we got to the hospital he didnt even remember my age or why I called......Lets keep this thing about how many ambulances we have, not who has a "more personable attitude towards their patients" . I dont think you will win." -It was ill advised to mention such a personal account as this and then to be so righteous in steering comments of others. Not to mention the caviler mention of an actual HAS employee by name. If you have a complaint, I urge you like so many patients that wait until they receive the bill to find fault by the crew in hopes that HAS will lower the bill or drop the bill entirely. This is a common tactic and shows poor judgment on your part in mentioning it in this format. I have worked with the mentioned paramedic and have found this paramedic to have a kind and caring bed-side-manner. I start from the beginning of the rest of your inaccurate statement. First, the statement that you waited until 11:45pm is a common statement from EMS crews. We're are, along with rendering medical care, employed to educate the public in the uses of the 911 System. Although I was not on your call, I feel confident in stating that this was an attempt to educate you that perhaps you shouldn't have waited so long with your symptoms to activate the 911 System. Yes, it is an error in not introducing yourself with the beginning of patient contact. This is a common error that even I overlook. Not everyone in life is blessed with the best social skills, but I think this can be overlooked when given the best in care by a nameless EMS crew. The style of patient care you describe with the crew sitting in your driveway for 20 minutes is a by-product of the short transport times crews have when responding to 911 calls in the city limits or Golden Hills. When an EMS crew response to any call for service, one of the first and most vital assessments a paramedic makes is whether the patient is stable or unstable. With stable patients, a paramedic might chose to "stay & play", i.e. work the patient up and start vital care prior to beginning transportation to the hospital. This is a huge benefit for the patient once the crew arrives at the hospital. With an unstable patient, EMS crews "scoop & go", i.e. waste very little time of the Golden Hour and get the patient to definitive care ASAP. If you speak to someone that has used HAS in Bakersfield, you'll probably hear that the paramedic on that call did the same thing. Although, I highly doubt that your crew sat on-scene for 20 mins. I back-fill Tehachapi crews from my station in Cal City and usually I'm not lucky enough to make it into town because the 3 crews staffed at Post 12 take pride in the speed of which they are able to provide excellent service. This speed allows the back-fill crews to return to the community they normally service. You speak out of both sides of your mouth in your comments made here. These claims would best be made to HAS Administration, not here. Please respect the job we do for the community and not personally insulted because the paramedic or EMT misplaced your name in all the other facts that are stored during a call. I'm sure this paramedic on your call knew why he responded to your call for help. The simplest of reasons is that the staff at Tehachapi Hospital would not allow such lack in care of a patient from one of our crews. Perhaps the medic used vernacular of the profession that you did not understand when he was giving his report to the Nurse. "Did everyone see the news tonight? Pine Mt Club received a new 4wd ambulance from Hall." -Don't worry. That same ambulance type has been purchase for the Tehachapi area. It is sitting at 21st. & O st. in Bakersfield if you want to see it. It has been mentioned that it wont be delivered to Post 12 until a storm warranting the use of a 4X4 ambulance is needed. The ambulances in Fraiser Park & Tehachapi are equipped with automatic chains, so the concern that other areas get better equipped vehicles does not need to begin. Tehachapi is serviced with the only "box" type ambulance in HAS's fleet. From unit 288 & now 342, this area has always seen some of the best service in the county. Yes, I am a HAS employee. I've lived in Tehachapi for 4 1/2 years. I take pride in the job I do and sometimes get kidded by my co-workers for it. It is painful to read some of these comments, both because of the truth in them and the lies in them. I have never heard of a patients death because one of our crews was at CCI or any other call and there was a delay in response time. We do need to place a 2nd ambulance in the area. Since I've worked for HAS, it's been said that we were going to get a 2nd unit. HAS has staffed an overtime 12hr crew in the mean time. From what I know, the current obstacle is the location of a new station and the cost of this possible new station. Our current station is not big enough to house 4 people. Perhaps the people making comments here should educate themselves on the obstacles ahead of HAS in providing the community with the desired 2nd ambulance. Perhaps some local property owners should stop trying to take advantage of the fact that Harvey Hall is trying to purchase or lease property in Tehachapi. Can he afford land in town? I don't know, but I do know he shouldn't have to pay an inflated rate because of his name or company. Am I in this for the money? Ha Ha! No EMS employee is in it for the money. Not fire fighters! Not paramedics! And definitely not EMT's! No, I don't qualify for state or federal aid. This is something that I have heard about my fellow HAS co-workers. I have never met someone that does qualify for aid, but I don't expect someone to tap me on the shoulder and admit that fact. I am lucky enough to be married to someone that does get paid enough to support our family. My job affords me medical coverage that my spouse's employer can not provide and the time to spend raising our first son. Would I like to get paid more, sure. I've never like hearing that co-workers have to apply for aid to provide for their families. This should never be the case, but this is for another blog. Something like increasing the number of ambulances in any given area takes time. Yes, there's been enough time taken and the need for additional coverage in this large area is well over due. I realize I have interjected some emotion in my comments. This isn't something I do for a living. This is who I am. HAS has provided me the opportunity to enjoy what I do and to take a tremendous amount of pride in what I do. Don't expect me to stand idle while comments are made to slander the company I work for. Maybe if more people took pride in what they do or the companies they work for this country would be a slightly different place. We definitely need to take time to respect those that are in a service position, from our men and women of the Armed Forces to that kid that bags your groceries. kulemt -comments submitted oddly enough as EMS crews race past my house. Stay safe guys! posted by
anonymous
on Dec 9, 2006 at 01:24 AM
First Claim that you get there 90% of the time within your response time I guess that would be correct if the response time was 20 minutes. Second claim, you cannot say that when money is made transporting that its not a motivation Get another ambulance up here and response times will be better thats all were asking for don't be so offended posted by
kulemt
on Dec 9, 2006 at 01:40 AM
KCEMS makes no mandates that all area must be covered by an ambulance 24/7. EMS does allow for response times greater than 8 minutes when the ambulance is responding from a distance. YES!! I can say that revenue made from transporting is not a motivation. It just doesn't enter into my mind or my partners mind when we discuss transporting a patient or not. We just don't worry about something like that in the field. We get paid whether a call we run is paid for by the patient or not. HAS pays us for our 48hr shifts whether we personally generate revenue or not. It's just not how it works. I've only been offended by the comments I highlighted in my previous post. A question for nrranch regarding the comment, "Tehachapi area response times are lacking at best." Where do you get your information allowing this comment to have any factual basis? I've read the minutes and watched the video provided by KC Board of Supervisors. There was no mention of response times associated with the Tehachapi area from the Director of KCEMS, Ross Elliott, or from any public comments made. posted by
citylady
on Dec 9, 2006 at 10:33 AM
NO, "they" don't always arrive before US! How often do you get to the call 1st in Bear Valley and Station Springs? Not true. KCFD does not "back fill" areas due to structure fires. KCFD does back fill from the Valley when the local stations will be out for long periods of time. "In your experience" haven't you ever seen Engine 11 or 53 sitting at the Tehachapi station? Don't forget, ye of complaining ways, the profit made by HAS is made from the insurance companies & those patients unfortunate to not have medical coverage. Not anyone else. If local FD become the sole ALS provider, one might wonder what would happen to local & county taxes. Think hard and long before there is a push to take my job and place it in the hands of a red tape laden agency. We rather have that red tape then your bosses politics. The same politics that kill people everyday. With stable patients, a paramedic might chose to "stay & play", People call 911 to go to the hospital not to be a play toy for you. If he is stable take him to the hospital. Yes, crews are recognized for a low "dry run" %. This is done at company "all hands" meetings and is used to give what little praise there is for EMS employees &nbs p; Why does Mr. Hall care about Dry Runs if not about money? Why does Hall have a Paramedic in Arvin telling people they have to go to the hospital when they call 911? "I was a patient of Halls. The paramedic was a skinny guy with very short hair and glasses. I think it was (name removed because it should never have been used). Why not if he did a bad job he has the right to say so. I know the guy he is talking about, how many complaints have to be made against this guy before he is dealt with? Don't forget, ye of complaining ways, the profit made by HAS is made from the insurance companies & those patients unfortunate to not have medical coverage. Not anyone else. & nbsp; Who do you think pays for that insurance? US! Up until a new station was built, Rosamond's fire protection was an aging engine that still had crew members sitting in the open air of the hot desert sun. Yes, the main reason was that the previous station could not fit the length that modern engines are constructed to. Why did it take the County FD so long in building Rosamond a new station? Maybe they are using our tax dollars the best why they can. As a Tax payer I expect that. Something like increasing the number of ambulances in any given area takes time. Yes, there's been enough time taken and the need for additional coverage in this large area is well over due. Then why did Hall put an 2nd ambulance in Cal City when they started there paramedic program? Hall proved it only takes days when his money is on the line. I could sit here all day and pick your post apart. You get upset because others talked bad about your profession without all the facts but you just did the same. Go tell Mr. Hal we want our 2nd Ambulance. If he will not give it to us we will find someone that can! I worked for Hall and I know the truth. My boyfriend worked for Hall and now he works for the county, we have all the facts. Keep your pro- company propaganda to yourself. We are asking for a 2nd ambulance and why we need one. If you don't like what we said about your company then do something to change it! posted by
anonymous
on Dec 9, 2006 at 11:59 AM
kulemt, The information of lacking response times is due to the fact that it takes Tehachapi's one ambulance 15 to 20 minutes to arrive in Bear Valley, Stallion, Cummings, Alpine. That response time is when the ambulance is on and available to respond. Waiting for the backup from Arvin, Mojave, or Cal City, God providing that they are not on a medical aid, response time can be 30 to 45 minutes. Its not a matter of getting the information from anywhere its just the facts as they are. I do not need to read minutes of a board meeting to figure that out. with only one ambulance for a population that has tripled all we are asking is for your company provide coverage that reflects the population here. Its not only your problem Fire stations also need to be made full time in Stallion Springs on that end of protection. I want to make this clear this is not against you Medics and EMTs you do a great job and this is not a personal attack. I am surprised at the response by the Hall people here. don't you want help? The remarks displayed only proves the point that when we start talking Fire Department Medics which would bring our county to the 2,000 era on par with all other cities and counties that local private companies fight it they know it will hit the pocket. I don't think anyone is talking about your pocket personally we all understand that you get paid to be there its the pockets of your company that dictate your policy. Nrranch posted by
anonymous
on Dec 9, 2006 at 03:34 PM
I think this blog did accomplished something other then making people mad. It is informing the public on the lack of ambulance coverage in the Tehachapi area. As a citizen of this area don't you want to know? Yes there are some inaccurate statements made but to tell you the truth not that many are inaccurate. Tonight at 9pm if you live in Bear Valley or Stallion Springs your ambulance will be 25 to 30 minutes away. The fire department will be approximately 10 minutes away. If your loved one was hurt or sick would you want a fire medic in 10 minutes or a Hall medic in 30? I know I would not care who it was as long as they got there in a good amount of time. If that Hall ambulance is already on a call you will be waiting 45 minutes for an ambulance. So much for that "golden hour". The main point of this blog was that we need more emergency medical care up here. It was started so people would call Mayben before last weeks BOS meeting and ask for more coverage for US in the Tehachapi area. If you work for Hall and what was said upsets you then do something about it. Tell your bosses that 1 full time ambulance is not cutting it. posted by
medicone
on Dec 9, 2006 at 04:08 PM
Mr.Hall has said for the last 7 years he was looking for a place to build a station in Tehachapi. If he truly wanted this he would have done it by now. I worked for Hall. This blog has been 100% on the money about Hall's level of service. I for one am glade the truth is being posted so everyone can see. We need 3 full time ambulances up here. One out by Bearvalley and 2 in town. The call volume supports this. Hall does not! If he will not do what is needed them we need to find someone that can. May it be Kern Fire, AMR, or someone new. Tehachapi fire station 12 runs 1,400 calls a year, Keene fire station 11 runs 1,000, Bear Valley station 16 runs 900 or so. Tehachapi hospital transfers one person out of town a day by Halls and the prison calls on average 10 times a week. Hall is doing all this with just one ambulance. I think Hall can afford to rent a house in Golden Hills for his crew to work out of. If we were telling lies why would we be begging the newspaper to do a story on this problem? Just another important but hard story the news paper is avoiding. |