ID is not science -

A brief recap of ID ......God created man from the earth and woman from man's rib ..... and then all went south when the talking snake convinced the evil woman to eat an apple.  I have trouble just calling this form of "beginnings" as intelligent - much less a design. 

Who believes this is reality?  And the dear, sweet brothers, offspring of Adam and Eve  - Abel & Cain ..... one murderer the other murdered.  The remaining son off into the world and ......... reproduces.  WOW - with who, may I ask?  Genius says he goes to the land of the giants.  Again,  WOW.  Who created the giants?  Where are the giants actually residing?  Did sonny boy walk a long, long time ---- or was it just a short overnighter?

Are you ID believers actually reading the Bible?  I think you should.  Word for translated, interpreted, word. 

Hey girl, got over that headache yet?

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I just found this website:

http://controversy.wearscie...

For those folks who support the "teach the controversy" concept regarding evolution, check out these t-shirts! Hysterically funny!!!

Whew.....this all gave me a headache.  There are some really smart freaking people here.  I need to read more books. Very interesting topic of discussion.

Following the facts where they lead and enjoying wide-ranging discussion isn't your bag...I get it.  After all, why discuss when you can hector?  Turn the car around, indeed....

PD, please stick to the issue here. If you'd like to discuss the evils of eugenics, start your own blog. It's such a miniscule part of this film. Now, I've asked you nicely to do this twice. Don't make me turn this car around, young man!

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On a different note, I see that Yoko will have these folks tied up in court for quite a while. And since the judge has issued an injunction against any more copies of this film being printed & distributed until the matter is settled, I guess the producers won't be able to make any DVD sales to try to break even on this turkey.

YAY Yoko! You go girl!

No comment on the here and now advocacy of using hair color to determine natal survival?  Guess that's A-OK!!  Eugenics is cool....

Looks like this film isn't going to make back the $ investment in the theaters, so the producers are going to have to make their money in DVD sales.

From what I understand, the initial investment was about $4 million, with another $4 million going into promotion. My guess is the box office total doesn't take into account the amount of money rebated back to church groups & the like bringing their faithful to see this piece of trash, (can you imagine having to bribe people to see your movie?) so the tickets sales will be considerably lower than listed at this site:

http://www.the-numbers.com/...

It's also been dropped by about 1/3 of the movie theaters showing it, so it doesn't seem to be the "blockbuster" that folks like Michael Medved hoped it would be.

Good news, all the way 'round.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/...

And its a good thing all those nasty eugenics people are in the long-distant past - scorned by all scientists and governments.

Oh - except here - where with the approval of the suitably Orwellian-named British Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority  embryos will be produced, screened, and discarded if they show a propensity to squint.  When asked if he would do the same to select for a child's hair color this as-yet-unscorned Dr. Mengele replied, "(Hair color) can be a cause of bullying which can lead to suicide...I would do it."

This is a public place.  If you want to have a private conversation, do it privately.

What am I "telling you"?  It is obvious - you claim to know the difference between right and wrong, so you must be a religious kook.  At least that what religious people who claim to know the difference are called - probably by you at various times.

Here's another simple question - is cannibalism right or wrong?  How do you know?

PD there you go sticking words in my mouth........in fact I wasn't responding to you........my comment was towards moonshadow and you know that.............Are you telling me that if you are a Christian and believe in God then you know right from wrong better then an atheist?????????who in the hell do you think you are calling me a kook.......lol

Sorry since i don't believe in god i can't answer your lame question........

gube, while YOU may say skinning illegal aliens alive may be WRONG, I say it is RIGHT!  

Are you saying YOU know the  "differance between rigjht and wrong" better than me?? 

It sounds to me like you're an intolerant kook!  Only a delusional fanatic would say that their opinion is better than another's.  Who died and made YOU God, anyway?

huh...awsmom?  While I'm not a big fan of Roger Mahoney, you've put him in a sentence with murders, ex-cons, and Jim Jones.  Got a reason for that?

And like oohchild, I like to get questions answered.  You say that "most wars are caused by religious leaders".  What religious leader has caused a war currrently being fought or that has been fought within the last 100 years?  You say "most" with such certainty, I'd like to see your supporting calculation.

moonshadows1949, I deleted one of your comments since you posted the same rant twice. I got it the first time, hon.

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Fanatics like you seem to always equate the ACLU with the most nefarious of goals, but I don't see what that has to do with this film's message. I also would recommend you read some history books yourself, and not the ones printed up by your church. There were so many errors in your brief paragraph that it would be futile to try & correct your flights of fancy.

Why are Christians like you so offended that atheists like me don't accept your concept of God? Why do you often think that we are somehow afraid or angry with your God? We don't see any reason to believe in any God(s), not just yours. Why is it so offensive that we reject your particular God? And why would you believe we are angry or afraid, when we don't believe at all? We are rational people, moonshadows, so we are able to discern the difference between unbelief & denial.

Finally, I don't believe in sin. Don't misunderstand me when I write that - I do believe there's plenty of evil & corruption in the world. Bad people do bad things every day. I just don't accept the concept of "sin" as outlined in the Bible. I can't see where eating certain foods or thinking certain thoughts can always be wrong or bad or evil. This extends to personal relationships & responsibility to our community. "Sin" is used to control the populace & shame them into compliance, which is in total opposition to a democratic republic.

Thanks for stopping by. I hope you aren't a "drive-by" poster like some others who've visited here, cause I'd really love to read your answer to my questions!

rm6, gube, awsmom8, Joty & madkow & vader, thanks for your input (did I forget anyone?) You guys rock!

all right, I haven't said anything in a while, but I have to say this: moonshadows you're off your rocker, the thought of your GOD doesn't scare me nor does it fool me, it disgusts me...the correlation between the nazis and evolution is nonexistant, it's a false analogy, evolution was created by Darwin over 60 years before the nazis...your faith DOES NOT give you the right to judge what is right or wrong for everyone...yea you have your faith, because without it, you'd crumble in the face of reality

"Without GOD, there is no right or wrong...isn't that why children today think that killing someone is not a crime.  Lives are not worth living without GOD."

Thats BS....................I don't believe in a christain god and I know the differance between rigjht and wrong...........what about all these preist molesting little boys?????Those priest belived in god and they still did wrong............OH and the bible is not gods word it's a book of stories written about god by man..............................

Maybe the thought of GOD scares you...then you would have to face yourself and your sins.......Well aint that why where called god fearing people??????????????