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ragmop - > Random Thoughts -> Headlights on Highline Rd. and Hwy 202?
Headlights on Highline Rd. and Hwy 202?

While driving for the umpteenth time along Highline Rd. today, it occurred to me that if drivers were required to turn on their headlights during daylight hours, it might improve the safety factor by making people more visible to oncoming traffic.  

There are mandatory Daylight Headlight zones along other two-lane roads that have been deemed 'dangerous' roads... why not Highline Rd.?   Why not Hwy 202 from Tehachapi Woodford all the way to the prison?   Who do we have to petition to get the idea considered?  

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posted by ragmop on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 at 10:10 PM
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posted by bohammond on May 20, 2008 at 10:24 PM

I agree. Highline definitely qualifies!

posted by gube on May 20, 2008 at 10:40 PM

No the cops already have enough reasons to pull us over and harass. Enough with the new laws already.

posted by ragmop on May 21, 2008 at 09:30 AM

Gube, if you are a law abiding citizen, it's highly unlikely that the cops will pull you over and harass you.. stop being so paranoid.   My suggestion about headlights on dangerous two-lane roads and highways was meant to increase everyone's safety factor, including yours!    Highline Rd., with it's blind spots, is a very dangerous road which has already claimed lives.  Also, Teh./ Willow Springs Road - Teh./Woodford Rd - Hwy  202...   there are several in this mountainous area.  

What could it hurt to drive with your headlights on?   I, for one, plan to do just that when driving these particular roads I have mentioned (even without a law to enforce it).  Hopefully, others will join me and it will catch on.    See you on Highline... I'll be the one with my headlights on!      Have a safe day, everyone!

posted by gube on May 21, 2008 at 09:47 AM

Most cars headlights are on all the time..................I am just tired of new laws ................The biggest problem on highline is speed. You are right Highline has claimed many life's......Many of those where single car accidents. There has also been several deaths at intersections. I think you will see stop signs before any head light laws.I am just tired of living in what is starting to feel like a police state. If the police would patrol these roads on a regular basis most people would slow down and obey the existing traffic laws. But by all means get your petition but don't get offended when I rudely tell you to piss off when you bug me to sign it.

posted by ProgressoDasani on May 21, 2008 at 10:12 AM

Your headlights aren't going to help anybody see you when you're in the hidey-hole at Mountain Park and Highline.  That thing makes me shudder everytime I go through it - and makes me wish I lived in a County that owned a road grader instead of in a Third-World Country.

posted by states on May 21, 2008 at 10:16 AM

Let's turn our headlights on people.

posted by ragmop on May 21, 2008 at 10:37 AM

I'm aware that most newer cars already have daylight running lights, which are great, but full-on headlights is what I'm hoping people will use.   Obviously, no headlight in the world can protect you from a reckless, speeding idiot or a driver that is distracted by a cell phone or any one of a thousand things that people do behind the wheel (including driving under the influence).     Gube, don't worry.. I won't be out there asking you to sign anything.   Sheesh!   What a grouch!  

Those blind spots on Highline are scary, all right... but hopefully the oncoming driver saw your headlights before you dipped down to the bottom and made him aware you were there and visa versa.   Headlights just help the visibility and awareness factor and remind us to drive more responsibly when we are on risky roads.

 

posted by madkow2747 on May 21, 2008 at 06:57 PM

While I wouldn't oppose people using headlights in the daytime on Highline, I don't think it would make much difference as a requirement.  Anybody with a bit of common sense can see the blind spots.  They can also see where it is safe to pass or not pass.  And they certainly know that they are on a two-lane road where any idiotic maneuvers or negligent driving can send them into a very bad accident.  It's the speed that is the problem. 

Going totally from memory, the few highways I know of in CA that require daytime headlights are the 138, the 46, and possibly the 166.  IMO, those highways are way more dangerous and the daytime headlights only help if there is poor visibility (usually seems to be haziness from the heat).  I just don't think Highline is bad enough to mandate daytime headlights during good visibility, and you have to have headlights on in bad weather anyway.

posted by ProgressoDasani on May 21, 2008 at 07:19 PM

Ragmop, if each vehicle hits the hidey holes just right, you are in one at the time you would otherwise see the car entering his.  It doesn't happen very often, obviously - but it has happened to me twice, and believe me, I am looking very closely for exactly the look-ahead you describe.  It is a chilling experience.

posted by ragmop on May 21, 2008 at 09:37 PM

Madkow, your memory serves well in naming some of the two-lane roads that require daylight headlights.. plus there are more within the State.   I've driven 138 numerous times, it also has the dips and 'hidey-holes' that Highline Rd. has.  True, speeding is the worst problem but I do believe that daylight headlights on Highline would serve to improve visibility which would, in turn, improve the safety factor.   In bad weather, only fog or rain/snow require headlights.. if your wipers are going, your headlights better be on and if it's foggy, same thing.   What about the time just before sunset when visibility is impaired for drivers going west... they face the sun and oncoming headlights would help them see the cars they are facing.  PD, glad you are taking precautions and driving responsibly along Highline. 

All things considered, I still think daylight headlights should be required.  Anything we can do to keep people safe is well worth considering.   This wouldn't cost you anything or hurt your gas mileage... just flip on your headlights and do your part to be a good driver.   Turn on your headlights!!      Peace!

posted by olebluelight on May 23, 2008 at 07:36 PM

I see nothing wrong with headlights, but to make it a law is stupid .... Crack down on speed and idiotic passing by impatient drivers and accidents won't happen.  There are already "No Passing" solid yellow lines in the dangerous curves and dips. The only "need" for the headlights is to let the speeders and reckless driving lunatics see you better, thereby you are actually encouraging their illegal driving acts.

posted by olebluelight on May 23, 2008 at 07:39 PM

Oh Yea, If it's a "blind spot" how are they supposed to see your headlights????????

posted by ragmop on May 24, 2008 at 10:45 AM

olebluelight says... "The only "need" for the headlights is to let the speeders and reckless driving lunatics see you better, thereby you are actually encouraging their illegal driving acts."

ARE YOU SERIOUS?   Using your headlights on a dangerous two-lane road ENCOURAGES speeders and reckless driving??

You need to turn in your badge (if you ever wore one). 

posted by olebluelight on May 24, 2008 at 05:23 PM

I stand by my statements-------Like always in modern society, when there is a problem which could be corrected by enforcing existing laws, someone will always propose to "fix it" by making new laws (which won't be enforced). Just more regulations on the law abiding citizens.

Why should I be made to run my lights in the daytime just so I can be seen better by the jackass running 80mph and passing on a double yellow.  Why not enforce existing laws and eliminate the idiot.

Most accidents on Highline are single vehicle wrecks. How would headlights help prevent those. And again, I ask if the other problem is dips and blind curves how the heck will daytime headlights help on a car you can't see anyway.  

 

posted by gube on May 24, 2008 at 05:51 PM

Oldblue is right..........we don't need another useless stupid asinine feelgood law that wont make a difference one way or another....................You people that feel the government needs to tell us what to do and when to do it are what is wrong with this great country. So ragweed you can have a spiritual experience driving with your headlights on but don't expect the rest of us to give a crap.........Of course this is only my OPINION.

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