TK that has got to be one of the stupidest thing that I have ever heard.....You were to feel pity for those children...Why  because little johnny got his butt whooped for doing something wrong....ha ha Little Johnny deserved that azz whooping...........man that takes the cake.....talk about self righteous...

"what's keeping (us) to minding (our) manners now" are the habits formed as children.  You're entitled to your opinion about what techniques might be better at forming those habits, but these habits are what matter, not the techniques used to form them.

Whew.  "low class families"?  Nice.  Maybe you could have learned your manners better.  

Your unsupported assertions are noted.  Good luck finding the citations.

There's a big difference between being beat and being swatted on the arse as a punishment for unacceptable behavior.  Did I get spanked as a child? You bet I did. Did I ever get swatted at school? Nope, because I knew it'd be worse when I got home. Just the thought of getting spanked was enough to keep me minding my manners. Did I spank my kids? You bet I did. No, my parents aren't around any more, but as an adult I really don't need them around because the lessons I learned as a child from them stuck, that's what is keeping me "minding my manners." Out of our six adult children, gee - not one jailbird...

Sounds like your parents were a bit on the snobby side...only low-class discipline their kids? Puhleeze! lol, I guess maybe my "low class parents" loved me enough to make sure I was raised right.

  "Learning cannot be accomplished in an environment of fear."

Neither can it be accomplished where there is no respect and the kids know they can get away with whatever type behavior they want with no consequences.

Do you really think the disrespect of students toward adults is because they aren't struck at home or in the schools?  If that's the only way you were taught manners then what's keeping you to minding your manners now?  Your parents aren't around to hit you anymore.  I was taught to respect my elders and betters but I was not hit.  Some of my friends in school were hit at home and my parents let me know that they came from low-class families.  We were to feel pity for those children.  Many children today are often hit in their home.  Those hit the most are usually the ones who show the most disrespect toward their teachers.  To authorize hitting them at school is not a solution.  Learning cannot be accomplished in an environment of fear.     

I read the article in the Californian and heard the article on the TV news.  Sounds like the teacher was entirely reasonable.  If both were accurate I hope the girl involved gets some kind of punishment for making a mole hill into a mountain.  And maybe a raise for the teacher (to pay for his treatment by the authorities).

I grew up in Orange County, and I was taught manners and respect.  It's not where you were raised, it's up to who raised you.  That's what we have to look at. 

When I was growing up, I KNEW who was in charge, and it sure wasn't me.

I don't know about the rest of you but I vividly remember my parents telling me that if I got a spanking in school I would get one when I got home too.  Dad made a believer of me and fear of Dad kept me out of a LOT of trouble!  ;-)))

Just kidding, but respect for my Dad and Mom and for other people was taught in our home.  And, I was taught to say please, thank you, yes Sir and yes Ma'am.  Kids in the rural midwest are still taught these values.  What has happened to our kids?  Seems like a lot of kids these days don't have any respect for anyone, including themselves.  Just listen to them speak at any store, or watch them push ahead of older people and never hold a door open.

Not all kids are this way.  There are still a rare few that do have manners and aren't taught to look for an opportunity for a lawsuit against someone with deep pockets.  Thank goodness for that.

I remember going into the principle office one time in 1st grade and had a talking to. I remember her pointing to the paddle and saying, "Do I need to use that?" Never went back again.

http://www.eyeoutforyou.com...

Tehachapi teacher on leave during investigation

Story Created: May 6, 2008 at 9:04 AM PDT

Story Updated: May 6, 2008 at 11:39 AM PDT

another article at:  http://www.turnto23.com/new...

Yep, when I was in the 6th grade we got a "swat" with the paddle when we broke the rules!  Hey Jer72 I didn't  hear about

a fight....?  Who knows what is really going on...There are so many rumors flying around.  The kids thought that the teacher

got fired and that he was escorted out by the police.  Apparently he did not get fired, and I don't know about the other.

My son knows the girl who is claiming that the teacher "wanted to touch her".  I think she's trying to get attention at this

man's expense. 

He's a respected and committed teacher. 

gube, I went to junior high & high school in Idaho in the '70s. Several male teachers had paddles, but they only seemed to use them on the "pretty" girls (read: big boobies) who acted out in class.

I don't think they were using them in the way they were intended.

;-)

jer72 you got that right.....I grow up in Wyoming and all the teachers had paddles........I know because I had a few broken with my Butt........

It's amazing that anyone would want to be a teacher in this day and age. One allegation such as this by a student (who probably needs her a** whooped) and a career could go down the drain. Her parents obviously haven't taught her the meaning of respect. Outrageous.