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samheath - > The Weedpatch Gazette -> Prayer and Philosophy
Prayer and Philosophy

Perhaps there is a philosophy of prayer, though despite the claims of various religions it is far from being a systematic organization of thoughts. Many of us as children were taught the prayer “Now I lay me down to sleep.” A pulpit joke I used to tell was about a little boy’s parents who found the prayer as a beautifully embroidered sampler in a store. Thinking to please him they bought it and hung it above the little boy’s bed. That night as he kneeled to say his prayer he looked up at the sampler on the wall, thought for a moment and said “Never mind Lord, there it is,” and without further ado hopped into bed.

No matter the religion, much of prayer falls into the category of mere form. The liturgies of various religions have evolved over the centuries and it defies either reason or logic why anyone can believe the mere repetition of such religious incantations, counting beads, burning incense or prayer papers, genuflecting and prostrating one’s self can catch the attention of any deity. Well, maybe such things catch the attention of a tyrant like Satan? I take it he likes to be flattered.

An honest Jew like Tevye would admit asking God whether the Almighty couldn’t choose some other people once in a while to represent him. There is no doubt in my mind that if Jews at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem were really honest when asked about it would reply they felt like they were talking to a wall. And, if most Americans were asked the question they would respond the same way concerning trying to get the attention of the White House and Congress.

However, calling out to God, especially in extremis, is for most of us as natural as breathing whether we feel like we are only talking to a wall or not; but for such talking to God being formalized by some ritual incantation really doesn’t impress me, nor do I believe it impresses God. So if you continue as a child saying your prayers at night before you hop into bed I hope it isn’t taking the form of the sampler the little boy found so convenient. If you are going to talk to God, then talk to God. I will continue talking to him along with my departed loved ones and friends and it isn’t anyone’s place to tell you whether you are only talking to a wall or not. But if talking to God takes the form of Caesar Bush or Iran’s mad mullah’s “privileged communication” with the Deity I will take issue with you.

While I do not believe in prayer as most consider it, no longer asking God for anything or to do anything, I find the Bible a fascinating source book concerning the subject. For example, why did Eli the priest think Hannah was drunk because she prayed silently though her lips were moving? No doubt Eli was familiar with drunkenness, including that of his own sons, but why pick on Hannah because her lips moved but no words were heard by the priest? I’ve never seen any drunks praying silently in church while their lips moved emitting no sound, but no doubt such things do happen. Still, it remains a curious story. Even more so when we read Eli was convinced of Hannah’s sincerity, blessed her and her prayer for a son was answered.

The story of Hannah has to do with the concept of Original Sin, in which women were cursed with childbearing and being dominated by men. To have a barren womb was a shame to women like Hannah; they were believed throughout their society to be found in disfavor with God. But to her husband’s credit he did not hold this against Hannah; in fact the story reads he loved her very much. As I continue to work on my book “Hey God! What went wrong and when are you going to fix it?” I never think of the subject of prayer that I do not think of Hannah; and I do not think of Hannah but I also think of the ignoble position of women in so many cases throughout human history. For example, Harvard’s president at the time didn’t think women have the brains for math and science. Suppose L. H. Summers had said women did not possess the higher faculties of mental processes required to be included in the King of Disciplines: Philosophy. Suppose he had said, “Women do not possess the mental requirements to be included in The Great Conversation!”

Why didn’t Harvard’s president call attention to the fact that women have failed to make their way into the most exclusive “Men’s Club” of all, the King of Disciplines: Philosophy? Since this omission of women from the King of Disciplines is the thorniest of all issues among all nations, it is not one that anyone of prominence wants to address. Even so, over the years I have come to realize that even among those of great prominence in the universities some have failed to note this Missing Half of Philosophy: Women!

Had Summers even been aware of this, it is not something to which he would have wanted to call attention. In my own experience of addressing this issue, invariably women have acted as though I were insulting them by calling this exclusion of women from the King of Disciplines to their attention. This despite the fact that it accounts for the failure of women to achieve the status of equal value to men resulting in their subjugation to men in the religion of Islam and others and their exclusion from leadership roles, an exclusion so sorely reflected in the United Nations.

But consider this: If Summers were aware of this omission of women from the King of Disciplines, and yet felt he could safely broach his opinion of the omission of women from the fields of math and science while ignoring the larger omission of their exclusion from Philosophy, it would speak volumes of his actual opinion concerning the higher mental processes accorded men as opposed to women.

A few, short years ago when I began to publicize the fact that women had confused “equal rights” for “equal value” and could not hope to be accepted on the basis of equal value to men until they had earned their place in the King of Disciplines, Philosophy, this generated heated responses from some prominent women. But there were others who understood and agreed, some even acknowledging the incongruity of women in the universities teaching courses in Philosophy seeming oblivious of the paucity of their own sex in this discipline. They were, in short, teaching the philosophies of men largely to the exclusion of women.

Whatever, it would have been well for Summers to frame his remarks concerning his opinion of why so few women achieve prominence in math and science within the larger context of their omission from the King of Disciplines. But men are notorious for their failure to address this issue. Why? I long ago came to the conclusion that even should men be aware of this, men in general do not want to invite women into this most exclusive of all male domains, the one discipline that more than any other emphasizes male dominance throughout the world and directs the course of history and nations, and as a result Philosophy remains far and away the most exclusive “Men’s Club” of all; and one against which women cannot bring suit claiming “discrimination.”

But when the first edition of The Great Books of The Western World came out over fifty years ago, I noted not one woman was included in the 54 volumes! It was then I realized something of great significance was at the basis of this glaring, and what had to be purposeful exclusion of women from philosophy.

On April 21, 2002 I wrote about the recent find in England of a 370-year-old book entitled “Woman’s Worth” proclaiming women to “excel men in virtues and rare endowments of the minde, and I think we shall finde that herein also women doe farre outstrip men.” I added this remark: “I can only hope Mortimer Adler will read this book before any new edition of the Great Books of the Western World is offered.”

Well, bowing to enormous pressure Austen, Cather, Elliot, and Woolf were added to the second edition of The Great Books. But if you read the history of this enormous undertaking of producing this set of books, if you read Mortimer Adler’s opinions of what constitutes the values he and the committee felt justified the inclusion of the various writers represented in this monumental literary achievement, you quickly realize the opinion of the men involved had not changed from the publication of the first edition to that of the second.

However, until women are included in The Great Conversation based on equal value to men, so long will Wisdom fail to be a part of any kind of attempts at peace in the world. The fact is that the barbarism of men makes wars, and the civilizing influence of women makes homes.

Somehow, the sop to women on the part of the committee and Adler adding Austen, Cather, Elliot, and Woolf to the second edition of the Great Books does not go nearly far enough. Honoring the “compatibility of differences” is not seen at the U. N., nor is it seen in America as the kind of relationship that honors and dignifies the compatibility of differences.

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posted by Joty on Oct 24, 2007 at 08:59 AM

My beliefs predate the male dominated "Christianity". 

 I find it odd that so many woman believe the Bible (and pray to a male god only) when it is so anti-feminine. A book written by many different men over the course of thousands of years. Women cursed with childbirth? That's a myth made up by men who were jealous and feared the fact women were blessed with the ability to give life. Over the course of history men have deliberately tried to keep women in a "second-class" position.

Prior to Christianity, women were revered, the main deity was female, societies were matriarchal.

Women who fight to gain access to "Men Only" entities only contribute to the problem, even if they win, they loose. I have no interest in joining any men's club, I don't feel left out or excluded. In fact, men are excluded from MY club, and no lawsuit can ever let them in...Motherhood!

posted by samheath on Oct 24, 2007 at 09:17 AM

Among the curiosities of otherwise civilized nations is the question of why the overtly sexist Decalogue does not cause more women to speak to that issue? On the contrary, it seems women choose to go along with this kind of discrimination rather than challenge it when opportunity arises to do so.

posted by Joty on Oct 24, 2007 at 06:35 PM

You are absolutely correct. Though some women do challenge it, there isn't enough to really make a difference. Most women simply go along with how they were raised without questioning it even though it is so belittling to women. My family is from the South. I was thoroughly indoctrinated with the Southern Baptists, by far one of the most misogynistic religions around. I was taught a women needs a man to take care of her. I was taught a good wife is subservient to her husband, he comes first in all matters, he is never wrong, turn the other cheek and a blind eye. The children come next. My mother pushed marriage on me at the age of 16 for fear I would be an old maid (!). I managed to hold off until the ripe old age of 17. No surprise, my first marriage failed. My second, though not perfect, has lasted 30 years because my husband views me as an equal, and at times, lets me stand on a pedestal.

I don't know what it was prompted me to rebel. I began reading everything I could get my hands on regarding women and the history of religions. I tried to educate my "sisters" but most of them regarded me as well, nuts. My family has doomed me to burn in eternity. I was sucessful with my daughter, and she in turn is teaching her daughter.

I think it has been so deeply ingrained in women's psyche that they fear change. They don't want to ask questions. If they do, that ever so useful emotion, guilt, comes into play. I was thrilled when Dan Brown wrote the Da Vinci Code. Though it was fiction, it was based on some truth. That's why the Catholic Church hated it. I thought for sure it would cause more women to question and begin to think outside the Bible. I still maintain hope...

posted by scottso on Oct 24, 2007 at 06:56 PM
I think the same reason women do not more universally question that situation is the same reason that people are afraid to question their religious faith or their political beliefs.  Fear of change, fear of reprisal, fear of being wrong, fear of rejection and many other fears I'm sure.
posted by madkow2747 on Oct 24, 2007 at 08:37 PM
I was brought up Catholic, but I don't remember there being much misogyny.  Then again... I never paid any attention in religious ed class :)  I do remember taking issue with many passages in the bible, for being derogatory to women and for other sundry reasons.  And I thought that the Church was totally out of touch with the times- like they tried to modernize and didn't do it right.  I think some people still use prayers because it provides a text to communicate easily.  And I think it's comfortable for the people raised in that tradition.  I remember hearing non-traditional prayers when I was around other Christians, and I thought that they were insane!  To just "talk to God" like he was sitting right there?  To confess sins without the presence of a priest?  It was just too strange.  I still think it's really weird.

I remember having friends ("womanists") that insisted on testing to the same requirements as the boys in PE when I was in school.  I thought they were nuts, but sometimes I could go to the boys requirements too, when it was easy for me to do so...  I guess that's the crux of hypocrisy for me.  A lot of women like to be considered equals- when it's convenient for them.  And some women insist that they're better than men, for some reason I've never been able to figure out.  I think a big reason there are not as many female philosophers is because in not-so-past times, women haven't had as much opportunity to publish, or as much time to even write and explore the mind as learned men have had.  Or they have not had enough money and a room of one's own..
posted by samheath on Oct 25, 2007 at 03:48 AM

It wasn't that long ago women couldn't even vote in America or sit on juries, they were a rarity in the universities and seldom taught in them, the professions were closed to them. So yes, the opportunity to get their philosophical thoughts published was extremely limited and the schools and society maintained a rigid caste system that did not encourage a female Socrates or Plato.

As to rigid religious structure, as a child I was catechized and baptized into the Roman Church and know it very well. But that was on the east coast among Polish Catholics who didn't consider west coast Catholics real Catholics. It gave me insight into the phrase "More Catholic than the Pope."

posted by oohchild on Oct 25, 2007 at 08:45 AM

http://www.women-philosophe...

Did you know that: ?

     

  • A few thousand years before Pythagoras (the Father of Philosophy), a woman known as En Hedu'Anna was doing philosophy? She lived in the Middle East, in the area now designated as Syria and/or Iraq.

     

  • A woman who became Empress of the Roman Empire restored philosophy to Rome after all the active philosophers had been killed or exiled by Nero.

     

  • Women's monasteries in Europe were home to many women philosophers. The Abbess Hroswitha , for example, not only practiced philosophy but wrote a number of philosophical plays.

     

  • A woman philosopher is one of Japan's great epic authors.

     

  • The work of a female British philosopher established the distinction between philosophy and the empirical sciences that is generally accepted in Western universities. (Remember that Newton, Galileo and others published their works as Natural Philosophy, not science)

 

Enjoy!

posted by samheath on Oct 25, 2007 at 02:53 PM
Who would dispute the fact there have been women of great intellect and influence throughout history. Which only serves to underscore the issue of their exclusion. It continues to be a "man's world," and philosophy continues to be a male domain. There is no philosophy of women guiding the course of history or dominating the decisions made by world leaders.
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