Spock said, "I don't know who this GUBE guy is, but I am appalled that he or she would condone rude behavior and name calling. I was taught early on when I was attending Columbia University, that name calling is the substitute for inteligent, respectful discussion"

Does anyone else find it funny that intelligent is spelled wrong!  HA! From a Columbia grad, no less?!

When I first moved here I looked at houses in BVS.  I almost bought one ...luckily I realized that living in a community with an HOA wasn't for me before I did buy a house there. 

I live in Sand Canyon, my house/property looks awesome.. I love living where my neighbor is a mile down the road. Most of my neighbors have very well maintained yards..simply because they leave it natural and don't collect cars.. lol  I know there are some people who collect trash as a hobby...one man's trash is anothers man's treasure I suppose. 

I love living in Sand Canyon simply because what my neighbor does to their yard is irrelevant to me... I can't see them anyway from where I live, and I have enough property that it will stay that way for as long as I reside here.

Dear Sunshine:

Please let me know when and where you will next be walking upon water. I would love to watch such an example of perfection and omnipotence.

Ragmop, my use of the word "slovenly" was meant to be ironic, because this man obviously does not appear to be slovenly - let alone, as you suggest, mentally ill, or lazy, or both. I used it ironically because I suspected that spock would agree with you and describe it that way.  We disgree on what makes an attractive lawn - as hard as that is for the two of you to understand.  Try embracing some diversity!

Until you succeed in overturning your ingrained prejudices, however, please tell me what makes that vegetation - which is at its full, seed-producing height - "overgrown".  "Overgrown " compared to what??  One might as well call an acorn-producing oak tree "overgrown", since it too is taller than mown grass. 

As for this guy's attitudes, my guess is that this man enjoys his plants and his yard.  He certainly doesn't look lazy.  I think his lawn looks wonderful. 

 Sparks said....  "I love living in Sand Canyon simply because what my neighbor does to their yard is irrelevant to me... I can't see them anyway"

That's all well and good if you live in an isolated place where you can't see a messy neighbor, however, for most of the rest of us.. that is not an option.   We walk out the door and there it is.. the neighbor whose house needs paint and repair and the yard that is trashy and weedy and brings down our property values.   Would Sparks be so forgiving if she had her neighbor's mess up close and personal "in her face"?   I think not..

PD...  "He certainly doesn't look lazy.  I think his lawn looks wonderful."

Just what does lazy look like ??     I looked and looked at the picture and saw no "wonderful" lawn... all I saw were tall weeds and vegetation in the background.  

"Wonderful" is subjective of course. Its just my opinon, based on the healty plants and their interesting textures and variety across the landscape. 

As for lazy, you accused him of being so, what did you base it on?  

And what do you mean by "overgrown"?  Does it depend on the plant at all?

A lawn, as defined by the American Heritage Dictionary, is:   "A plot of grass, usually tended or mowed, as one around a residence or in a park or an estate."     PD can embrace diversity all day long, but a yard full of weeds will never qualify as a lawn... subjectively or otherwise.

Overgrown... "To become grown over, as with unwanted vegetation or weeds."   Same source.. AHD

Key word is "unwanted".  Those plants were not unwanted.

Ragmop... geez, you almost sound mad at me for doing research before I bought my home.   I didn't say I would like to have a neighbor who was in my face that collects cars or has a half mowed lawn did I?  Why you assumed I would like a neighbor who was messy is beyond me.   Did you understand my post?   Why do you think I moved to Sand Canyon in the first place? What do you think the odds are for having neighbors as neat as yourself?    Yep... I did my research and now what people do with their lawns is irrelevant to me because I can't see them anyway.   I hope I have made myself more clear to you in this post.

Sparks, don't  read more into what I said than what I said, OK?   Did you even read my post??  

Yes, I read your post and made no assumptions that you would love a messy neighbor.. where did you come up with that?   You probably moved where you did because you wanted some space around you and because you don't see your neighbors' yards, whether messy or neat.   My point was.. if you, for some reason, had to live close to a messy neighbor and it was in your face all the time, then you would probably start caring about what your neighbor does to their yard.  There.. all clear? Truce? :-)

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It seems rather sad to me that some people are judging their neighbors on the basis of their lawns/yardwork.Do you folks judge everyone that way?Don't you even know your neighbors?Do you honestly believe that you can judge the quality and character of a person simply by their yardwork?My closest neighbors property is a mess on many levels,but there is so much more to her.She is a warm,friendly,fun-loving,good hearted person,who would be there to help me in an instant if she ever knew I needed it.Conversely,the neatest yard thatI know of is owned by a very unpleasant,mean-spirited man who I would hate to live next to. There's so much more to people than their yards!

We have a man who lives down the road from us.  Nice yard...well kept house.  If I had the time and energy, my yard would be as nice.  However....my point to this is this.  One day, I'm getting ready for work.  Early morning.  I hear a knock on my door and low and behold who is standing there....nice, neat neighbor "Mr. Ned Flanders"  holding a bag of trash.  I open the door and say hi....he pulls out a paper that has our name and address on it.  Apparantly a stray dog got into our garbage can, knocked it over, and dragged a plastic bag to the corner of the street.  He was very angry and told me that this "trash belongs to you".  I just stared at him.  I never said a word.  He stood there awkwardly, put the plastic bag down and walked off.

Who is the mentally ill one here.  He saw the trash in the road, searched for a name and address among the trash and came to my door in the early morning to "give it back to me".  Why didn't he just throw it away?

After getting ready for work, I went out picked up our trash container and had my son go out and pick up the stray trash.

Sooorrrry Mr Flanders for the stray dogs in the neighborhood.  GET A LIFE!!!!

Good point Ginger and Olivia............. I think many people that have nice yards often feel superior over those that don't have nice yards.That superiorism often leads to bitterness and resentments towards the ''sloths'' or ''fat and lazy'' neighbors. If you want to live where everyone has to have a pitcher perfect yard then move to that type of community that also tells you when to take a crap. I believe in property rights. Its my property to do as I like with and it's your property to do as you like with.