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Tehachapi Fire Study- What do you Think?
The Tehachapi Fire Study has completed the first phase and the City Council has agreed with it as far as negotiating with Kern County Fire Department. Mr. Coleman did a good job of understanding all of the intricacies of the two departments. He didn't include public forums as I understood the first phase was supposed to contain. So, I am asking what do you think the negotiations should ask for on both parts?
36 comments from 12 users
posted by
anonymous
on Mar 8, 2007 at 09:30 PM
Seniorcitizen, did you have to pay $ 2000 + to the city when you built your house? Do you think new homeowners should bear the burden of a City Fire Dept. ? Because a few new homes went in, it warranted the city starting a full time dept.? The City taxed these people without them having a say in it. Do you think it would be fair to tax only Bible book stores to fund a new library. No, and it's not fair to tax new homeowners anymore than existing homeowners. They didn't start charging this tax until they dreamed up starting their fire department full time. I don't want any less fire protection, I want more and we can have more for less dollars by contracting with Kern County Fire Department.
posted by
Colitas
on Mar 9, 2007 at 07:44 AM
Shane - please don't try and explain your wages...everyone knows old is just spilling crap out of his mouth. Unless of course you want to respond with pure sarcasim. .lol. But frankly, I would rather pay a "Big" salary for someone who is saving my children's lives!!!! Rather than some paper pusher. But again your salary isn't all that. You are being great with your blogs despite the personal attacks..who did you tick off..lol.
posted by
ShaneThePain
on Mar 9, 2007 at 12:28 PM
Everyone!
posted by
sushisoo
on Mar 9, 2007 at 01:50 PM
Thanks doesnotgetit. Yes, an anon post said I had my facts all wrong. I still don't know what facst those might be. But I appreciate the contact info. I read in the Californian not too long ago that the supers weren't supporting the KCFD's efforts to increase staffing. I will post whatever I find out.
posted by
tehachapigrouch
on Mar 9, 2007 at 08:42 PM
Well after reading through my earlier posts, I found that the editor also edited some of my earlier posts. So I'll try to do it without mentioning _arls name. I believe he is upset with the City Fire Department being shut down because he will no longer be able to use his badge- Volunteer Fire Captain. As I said before, he makes no sense on here or in the speech he tried to make to the City Council.
posted by
ShaneThePain
on Mar 9, 2007 at 09:07 PM
I think the editor is doing a good job trying to keep this thing nice and clean. I am sure someone called her about the "C" name being used. The difference between his name being used and mine is, I have an open profile with my named posted on it. He didn't. Even that other site we post on has rules that we have to follow.
posted by
doesnotgetit
on Mar 9, 2007 at 10:03 PM
Wasn't it agreed at the City Council meeting Monday that the City would post the Fire Study on their Web site? Could the paper see if it could obtain the study and place it here? I think it would be helpful for everyone so that they would be able to see how Chief Coleman came to some of his conclusions. I heard that the City Fire Chief won't take any more Reserves because they were through in June. posted by
TehachapiResident
on Mar 9, 2007 at 11:41 PM
doesnotgetit, the consultant Coleman said that he reserves the right to make changes to the report and that the city only had a draft copy currently. Remember he said, once he finalizes it he would give it to the city in a pdf format for them to post to their website.
posted by
ShaneThePain
on Mar 10, 2007 at 10:52 AM
TehachapiResident you were just on here upset about oldtehachapinative deleting your post. Now you are asking for someone else to have their post deleted. I don't understand. I hope the City Chief is directing those possible new reserves to the County.
posted by
tehachapigrouch
on Mar 10, 2007 at 11:47 AM
I think everyone got a little sidetracked from what I asked on this blog(including myself). I was hoping to get some ideas of what you think the city should ask the county in their negotiations. My thoughts: 1. The county would absorb their three captains and bring them over as Firefighters. 2. The county would take their lead engine and patrol, radios, rescue gear, and any other equipment that has value to the county and give the city a $ credit for them as they have proposed to do with Cal City and others. 3. Man their engine out of Sta 12 with an Engineer and a Firefighter
I believe Ron Coleman knows his stuff but I believe he is trying to apply suburban firefighting guidelines to a rural city. He states that the guidelines suggest each station should cover 9 sq. miles. This just doesn't work in a rural setting. His suggestion is for the county to add a fourth man to Sta 12 so that they are able to enter burning structures under the 2 in and 2 out rule. I believe this doesn't do for the city what the city had in mind. they have always stated they want coverage when the county was involved in calls in the county area. This has always been the operating plan with the City Fire Dept. The county could offer to staff the second engine and plan to keep it in the city at all times. They have this agreement with the City of Delano. These are my thoughts, what are yours? posted by
theoutsider
on Mar 10, 2007 at 06:15 PM
Why do people want the county to staff reserves up here? From my understanding county reserves dont even need to be EMT certified. If that is true what makes county reserves any better than the city firefighters. I know they all have to EMT certified to even be employed.
posted by
ShaneThePain
on Mar 10, 2007 at 06:26 PM
County reserves have an EMT and a Firefighter 1 academy. The County reserves that don't only work as support personal.
posted by
anonymous
on Mar 10, 2007 at 07:49 PM
sushisoo- The supervisors did support opening the Stallion Springs Station with 3 personnel on a year round basis. They also agreed to 3 more firefighters for our Bear Valley Station as well as increased staffing at 3 other stations. They also agreed to let us start building a 2nd helicopter. Of course most of all of this money is being supplied by CalFire as part of increased manning statewide. In the next budget, the chief is asking for 57 new positions. This would increase the rest of the 2 man stations to 3. He is also asking for 5 new engines, 1 ladder truck 10 patrols, and one large Urban Search and Rescue truck. These alone would probably cost in excess of 4 million dollars. I believe Kern County Fire Department is a very progressive department. We'll have to wait until August to see what the supervisors agree too. We have been able to purchase about this much equipment each year for the last couple of years. In the next couple of weeks, Tehachapi will receive a new patrol ($100,0000) and June we will receive a new Engine ($400,000). Also Stallion Springs will receive a new engine any day. Bear Valley and Keene Received new 4 wheel drive engines last year. All the engines in the Tehachapi area will be less that one year old soon. We can only hope the supervisors will continue to support the Fire Department. posted by
theoutsider
on Mar 10, 2007 at 08:03 PM
Support for what? With no EMT or academy what good are they? posted by
kidswi
on Mar 10, 2007 at 08:20 PM
Such reserves could come in to work on medium to large size incidents within the county to do support rolls such as deliver sack lunches, cold drinks, move around any necessary equipment, etc, etc.
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