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tehachapigrouch - > Tehachapi -> Tehachapi Fire Study- What do you Think?
Tehachapi Fire Study- What do you Think?
The Tehachapi Fire Study has completed the first phase and the City Council has agreed with it as far as negotiating with Kern County Fire Department. Mr. Coleman did a good job of understanding all of the intricacies of the two departments. He didn't include public forums as I understood the first phase was supposed to contain. So, I am asking what do you think the negotiations should ask for on both parts?
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posted by tehachapigrouch on Thursday, March 8, 2007 at 06:52 AM
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posted by theoutsider on Mar 10, 2007 at 08:32 PM
I didn't mean my comment in a rude way but i talked to the captain in charge of the county reserves recently and he said that reserves DO NOT need an EMT or an academy. Maybe they've changed it in the last month. Also I dont understand how everyone here is talking about the safety of themselves and there families and then be happy that a fire station is being closed. As mush as people want Station 12 to be a four person station i just dont see it happening too soon. When the TFD closes down the city will be at the mercy of the board of supervisors and what happens if  we dont get what we want from the county such as a second engine and even a station in golden hills like we were banking on. If these things dont happen, the TFD wont be around to pick up the slack if 12 is out on a call and your next engine is coming from Keene or bear valley. The board of supervisors doesnt fold under pressure as easily as the city council and bloggers are not going to have any effect at all.
posted by countygirl on Mar 10, 2007 at 09:23 PM

Theoutsider - It is my understanding that all of this will be resolved BEFORE the contract with KCFD is signed.  It's not like TFD is gone. They are still manning their engine(  paying captain's overtime everyday) and I imagine they will continue to do so until the the contract with the county is signed,sealed, and delivered. Do you mind me asking why you even care about a reserve program? Do you really know what a reserve program is for?

I believe "the grouch" asked us to stay on topic. Have you answered his original question?  I'm curious what your answer is.

posted by doesnotgetit on Mar 10, 2007 at 09:43 PM

Countygirl (Countrygirl) is right- Nothing is going to change until a contract is hammered out between the City and County. It is in the hands of Mayor Grimes and Council member Vernon. I think the more people express their wants to them, the more they will have to work with. Maybe if more people would have known about the City plans in the first place, we wouldn't be where we are today.

As far as reserves go, they don't have to start out being emt's or have an academy under their belts, but they will work towards that just the same as Tehachapi reserves did. Reserves can be very beneficial in support roles as well as on fires.

posted by theoutsider on Mar 11, 2007 at 04:01 PM
Countygirl- way too be rude. Its hard to even care what you say because obviously you only know what your county husband tells you. The information i recieved is that the TFD will only be around until the end of this fiscal year which is in July i believe.
posted by countygirl on Mar 11, 2007 at 05:01 PM

Yes, the end of the fiscal year is in July. The contract with KCFD will expire then. A contract should be hammered out before this happens.

I just wanted to know what you thought about the original question. You know, the one that is actually important. Instead you are on here griping about a volunteer reserve program. Why?

I make no apologies. It is obvious you are new to these blogs and know nothing about me.  If you think I do and believe everything I am told you're sorely mistaken.  I like to think for myself and I pride myself in thinking before I speak. You should try it.

 

posted by doesnotgetit on Mar 11, 2007 at 09:15 PM

outsider- I personally don't want the City Fire Department to go away. I have thought all along they should go back to the way it was when it was working and before they got grandiose ideas. They had 2 full time firefighters that worked a 40 hr. week. They were responsible for the programs such as Hydrants, business inspections, training of reserves, public education and maintenance of equipment. This program worked well and their was good cooperation with the county. Then they decided to try and take over the county's contract with the city (although there was no additional cost to the city). There was problems with nepotism and lack of experience when they made all of their firefighters Captains.

I still want them to go back to the way that worked, but that wasn't even discussed in the study. The study says that it isn't feasible and that the county needs to have a 4th man so that they can fight interior fires. The county has been fighting interior fires just fine with 3 firefighters as Chief Thompson explained at the City Council meeting. The City and residents don't care if there are 4 firefighters, just that there is someone to answer the call when the County is out of the city limits on a call. This has always been the basis of the contract between the City and  the County that the City Fire dept (weather it was the reserves or volunteers or the paid firefighters) would cover the city. This worked well and  could be re-instituted with minimum paid Firefighters and Paid Call Firefighters or reserves.

I would agree that there are some on here that don't  want anything to do with the City Fire Department, but  I believe that was caused by the hard feelings when the City pulled out of the County Station and promoted inexperienced to the position of Company Officer.

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