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Can someone explain this to me?
My daughter is a freshman at THS, according to her Friday night at the Winterfest Dance a freshman boy was caught with drugs and alcohol in his backpack by the Vice Principle. The police where called out. But today she came home and told me the boy received a 5 day supension from school. I thought it was illegal for drugs/alcohol to be one school property. Should this boy be expelled? And what is up with the smoking by the parents picking up the kids on school property? We moved here in 2004 and where we came from you could not smoke on school property teacher, parents, or students.
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posted by
rm6
on Jun 7, 2007 at 11:16 PM
It's a sad day when you don't feel safe on campus, especially in a small town like Tehachapi. I bet the they're drinking, smoking, etc in the parking lot nearest to the gate between the 700 and 800 buildings huh? When I was there most of the "good" kids would park in the lot nearest to the intersection of valley and dennison. What kind of vandalism is it now? Last year or maybe the year before someone trashed the restrooms... Just out of curiosity Steven, are you the same person who posted some (not bad) stuff about your spanish teacher on myspace? posted by
twinbing
on Feb 6, 2007 at 09:40 AM
Here is an update on this freshman boy....HE IS BACK IN SCHOOL. Very disappointed it is saying it is ok to break the rules. This kid is in my daughter's class and brags about how he got off and tells other students how he does drugs during school hours. This is very sad. By the way his parents does know of his behavior I know this kid and parents. And they allow this behavior to go on.
posted by
Active4People
on Feb 4, 2007 at 09:35 PM
TK, there are two sides to every story, and neither are shown in these writings--including yours and mine. Our opinions are just that and no more. So, respectfully, I do disagree but understand your view. Also, if anyone thinks a change in the board is going to change the areas with which you are concerned, I doubt that very seriously. First they will have to get a good Superintendent because the board has neither the time or skill to manage the day to day affairs of the school district (and that is not the Board's roll--they are policy makers). Let's hope they get a good one--and then, let's comment in about a two years (and see if the new Super is following whatever policies the Board has modified and if those policies are having an effect)--I'll withhold judgement until then.
posted by
TK
on Jan 24, 2007 at 09:42 AM
They do have a Saturday detention. The kids walk around campus and pick up trash. If the kid arrives at Saturday detention on crutches or otherwise physically unable (with a doctor's note or a hospital document) to put in the required hours of trash collection, the student's punishment becomes a suspension. And yes, Active4People, this will occur all because of chronic classroom tardiness, which you categorize as a minor infraction but which the school district has declared to me is a reason to deny accomodations to a learning disabled student. There is a reason why the school board has so many new faces: parents have had enough of the bizarre behavior encountered here. This has been gone over in previous blogs, very thoroughly, prior to the November election. This school district has a reputation that has reached up to Sacramento. I'm hoping for good changes from this new Board.
posted by
eekitsaspider
on Jan 23, 2007 at 03:02 PM
Maybe the school district should have a saturday school for the children who get suspended. The student in trouble could come to the school on saturday and be assigned community service. For example: pick up trash, paint, volunteer for diffrent organizations and etc. This way they can help the community. Just a thought, but probally would never work.
posted by
LoriMorales
on Jan 23, 2007 at 02:37 PM
I find the school administration logic peculiar. Hopefully, the police pressed charges and the kid was disciplined by his parents. But, think about it. What kid that age wouldn't love to have 5 days off from school? That's not punishment - that's 5 days of watching TV and hanging out.
posted by
twinbing
on Jan 23, 2007 at 10:17 AM
My daughter did not say if he was or not just that the sheriff was called out to school. I understand there are two sides to this story but I am concerned over this matter. The school does red ribbon week and only gives this punishment out when a student is caught with drugs. I think it is a mixed message. I am happy that she felt she could come to me as her parent to tell me this. Some kids may not have said anything.
posted by
jewels
on Jan 23, 2007 at 09:59 AM
He received 5 days suspension from the school, but what about when the sheriff was called out, did they not arrest him? posted by
charlee
on Jan 23, 2007 at 09:21 AM
My son was once suspended in his freshman year for the same length of time--5 days--for refusing to go home and change a shirt that a school administrator decided was "offensive" . The garment in question was a Big Dogs T-shirt with South Bark on the front, depicting canine versions of the famed cartoon characters on the back. The caption read, "Oh my God, they fixed Kenny!" The administrator deemed that the use of "God" on the T-shirt was offensive and therefore needed to be changed. My son did not refuse to change for kicks and grins; he was unable to go home, having no transportation at the time, (I worked in Bakersfield) and the school had nothing for him to change into. However, even though he has always been an A-B student with an exemplary record, they suspended him anyway, for "insubordination". Imagine the school administration's surprise when I told them that I had no objection to the shirt, since my son had asked me for permission to wear my new T-shirt to school that morning. It took me a bit of time and quite a lot of arguing to have the incident removed from his record; it took my son weeks to make up the schoolwork he missed, along with the new assignments he was given upon his return. The point is, school discipline seems highly subjective. It depends largely on the personal opinion, beliefs, and general mood of the administrator. Possession of drugs and alcohol at school could have been deemed a mere "infraction" by that particular person at that time. Wrong? Of course. However, no one will change it. Thank DOG that this particular administrator is no longer working in our town. He moved to LA..... posted by
Active4People
on Jan 23, 2007 at 08:34 AM
TK, IF the student was in possession, under the influence or distributing drugs on school property, the matter will be taken up via an expulsion hearing by the school board. Substantiated offenses for alcohol or drugs are be referred to the Board. The Education Code requires that any suspension longer than a certain period of time requires a Board hearing. You are insinuating that for a minor offense a student would be referred to the alternative school and for a drug (or major) offense the student would receive a slap on the wrist. This is simply not true. Also, I have been around long enough to know there are two sides to every student (and parent) story, and I always want to know both sides before drawing a conclusion. If you don't agree with the district's way of dealing with issues (note that we have an, essentiall, new school board---so, we wonder where they will go), run for the school board and get elected--I will support you doing a good, hard working job. I just get tired of reading barbs thrown at institutions when all facts are not stated and implications are made. True, some barbs are deserved, but in this case, I really don't think all the facts are known.
posted by
eekitsaspider
on Jan 23, 2007 at 08:28 AM
Wow only 5 days suspension! A kid can take drugs and alcohol to school and all he gets is 5 days suspension. How unreal.. I thought a school could suspend for up to 10 ten days but i could be wrong. And what is a suspension going to teach him? This child better be glad he is not an adult, the consequences would of been alot worse. And lucky kid gets 5 days off of school... How sad!! posted by
TK
on Jan 23, 2007 at 07:32 AM
Them's the rules. If the kid was chronically late to class they would suspend him and send him to Monroe. If he had threatened to attack another student the Sheriff Dept. would have referred any complaint to the school, and the school would talk to both students together. If he had actually attacked another student on school grounds he would have been told to get back to class (if he were on the football team) or perhaps talked to by the VP. You may have noticed a lot of people don't agree with this school district's way of doing things
posted by
twinbing
on Jan 22, 2007 at 07:30 PM
To answer you question the school employees would warn the parents and if it continued then the police were called in to escort them off property. Also, I am thankful that I read the blogs during the elections it helped me make up my mind who to vote for. But the mail here is bad...we have had packages delivered without our stuff from our daughter's grandparents the letter was left in the box though. We chalk it up to the person who took the stuff must have needed it. And yes we have complained and nothing was done.
posted by
countygirl
on Jan 22, 2007 at 07:20 PM
He should be expelled. If a kid gets expelled for lighting of a firecracker in the school parking lot, a boy who was found with illegal drugs and alcohol should definitely be expelled!
posted by
oldtehachapinative
on Jan 22, 2007 at 06:55 PM
5 days is the Max the school can give a student. They will have to take the kid to the school board in order to get him expelled. No one should be smoking at the school, but who is going to enforce that on the parents? What do you think about our city by the way? Make a post on some of the other blogs and let us know!
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