http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533 Hey what does it mean when a thread is locked?&nbsp; I mean obviously you can't comment on it, but who locks it and for what reasons? Hey what does it mean when a thread is locked?&nbsp; I mean obviously you can't comment on it, but who locks it and for what reasons? en-us <font color="#0000ff">I think the people running the blog lock it. I wouldn't blame the Tehachapi News if they were the ones that did it, that blog was getting out of control. It is one thing to voice your opinions to others but personal attacks is wrong.</font> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164762 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164762 <font color="#0000ff">I think the people running the blog lock it. I wouldn't blame the Tehachapi News if they were the ones that did it, that blog was getting out of control. It is one thing to voice your opinions to others but personal attacks is wrong.</font> <p>i can understand why the News deleted a couple of my post&nbsp; but not all they did. Any way i do have strong beliefs when it comes to illegal immigration. I do not believe we should shoot illegal immigrants. Come on who in their right mind would. I am not Shane. I just played along with Level4 when he started to say i was Shane. I am not a fireman and i am in no position to triage any one for i do not work in the medical profession. This is the last time i will say that i am sorry if i offended anyone for my intention was to poke fun at people that snub their noses at our immigration laws. </p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164773 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164773 <p>i can understand why the News deleted a couple of my post&nbsp; but not all they did. Any way i do have strong beliefs when it comes to illegal immigration. I do not believe we should shoot illegal immigrants. Come on who in their right mind would. I am not Shane. I just played along with Level4 when he started to say i was Shane. I am not a fireman and i am in no position to triage any one for i do not work in the medical profession. This is the last time i will say that i am sorry if i offended anyone for my intention was to poke fun at people that snub their noses at our immigration laws. </p> <strong>Ground Rules for posting comments: </strong> <ul> <li><strong>No profanity or personal attacks. </strong></li> <li><strong>Please comment on the subject of the post itself. </strong></li> </ul> <p><strong>If you do not follow these rules we will remove your comment. Please keep it civil.</strong> </p> <p>It seems many people fail to read what is above the comment box.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>Gube, it;s great to have strong opinions but if you can't get your point across without personal attacks and bad language then you need to just keep your hands at your sides and step away from the computer.&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164781 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164781 <strong>Ground Rules for posting comments: </strong> <ul> <li><strong>No profanity or personal attacks. </strong></li> <li><strong>Please comment on the subject of the post itself. </strong></li> </ul> <p><strong>If you do not follow these rules we will remove your comment. Please keep it civil.</strong> </p> <p>It seems many people fail to read what is above the comment box.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>Gube, it;s great to have strong opinions but if you can't get your point across without personal attacks and bad language then you need to just keep your hands at your sides and step away from the computer.&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> man which one did they lock?  what did i miss? http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164788 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164788 man which one did they lock?  what did i miss? &nbsp;&quot;<a href="http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/VtKid/7495"></a><a href="http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/VtKid/7495"><font color="#800080">Illegal immigrants costs</font></a>&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; this is the one jewels http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164790 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164790 &nbsp;&quot;<a href="http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/VtKid/7495"></a><a href="http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/VtKid/7495"><font color="#800080">Illegal immigrants costs</font></a>&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; this is the one jewels SMOKEY&nbsp; i used the strong OPINIONS to bother people like you. lol. If you choose to believe the all out bull crap that i posted then by all means go right ahead.&nbsp;And you have said your share of ''opinions'' your self, go back and read some of your original post. those to where meant to incite.so don't try and be all that cause your not.lol http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164792 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164792 SMOKEY&nbsp; i used the strong OPINIONS to bother people like you. lol. If you choose to believe the all out bull crap that i posted then by all means go right ahead.&nbsp;And you have said your share of ''opinions'' your self, go back and read some of your original post. those to where meant to incite.so don't try and be all that cause your not.lol I understand the rules of the blogging,&nbsp; and to stop it or delete it, but to &quot;lock&quot; it &nbsp;don't understand.&nbsp; You can still what was written but you can not edit anything, including the individual blogger.&nbsp; Did The News do this?&nbsp; For experiment sake only, I am going to see if I can delete one of my own comments but threw my profile.&nbsp; we'll see. http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164795 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164795 I understand the rules of the blogging,&nbsp; and to stop it or delete it, but to &quot;lock&quot; it &nbsp;don't understand.&nbsp; You can still what was written but you can not edit anything, including the individual blogger.&nbsp; Did The News do this?&nbsp; For experiment sake only, I am going to see if I can delete one of my own comments but threw my profile.&nbsp; we'll see. yes i can go into my personal comments profile and edit or delete by the way.&nbsp; So does this mean it was the creator of the blog that &quot;locked&quot; it or Teh News?&nbsp; I am thinking if it were the Teh News then I wouldn't be able to edit anything on that particular thread at all.&nbsp; Ummm.... http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164798 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164798 yes i can go into my personal comments profile and edit or delete by the way.&nbsp; So does this mean it was the creator of the blog that &quot;locked&quot; it or Teh News?&nbsp; I am thinking if it were the Teh News then I wouldn't be able to edit anything on that particular thread at all.&nbsp; Ummm.... <p>I don't understand it either. The TN has let jim's vulgar Christianity post go on but they decide to put a lock on this one.</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164801 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164801 <p>I don't understand it either. The TN has let jim's vulgar Christianity post go on but they decide to put a lock on this one.</p> Gube, yes I have strong opinions also (most of us do) but most of your comments were uncalled for and inappropriate. Your opinions do not bother me at all. There is nothing wrong with having different opinions or strong opinions&nbsp;but there is something wrong with attacking people and using vulgar language. That is what I take issue with. http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164805 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164805 Gube, yes I have strong opinions also (most of us do) but most of your comments were uncalled for and inappropriate. Your opinions do not bother me at all. There is nothing wrong with having different opinions or strong opinions&nbsp;but there is something wrong with attacking people and using vulgar language. That is what I take issue with. <p>get over it</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164809 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164809 <p>get over it</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> again, like gube stated, what about jim's thread.....it's still going.&nbsp; I mean he is talking to himself now, but when it was going strong, it was extremely heated and frankly vulgar language was used, and many, many personal attacks.&nbsp; I expected TN to stop that one when it all started getting sexual and trouble came aboard.&nbsp; Don't get me wrong, I thought it was very entertaining because as soon as I figured out that it was just for shock valued I played along.&nbsp; And no offense gube, but gube says a lot for shock value.&nbsp; So, again, why is one ok, and not the other if it is TN doing it. http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164815 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164815 again, like gube stated, what about jim's thread.....it's still going.&nbsp; I mean he is talking to himself now, but when it was going strong, it was extremely heated and frankly vulgar language was used, and many, many personal attacks.&nbsp; I expected TN to stop that one when it all started getting sexual and trouble came aboard.&nbsp; Don't get me wrong, I thought it was very entertaining because as soon as I figured out that it was just for shock valued I played along.&nbsp; And no offense gube, but gube says a lot for shock value.&nbsp; So, again, why is one ok, and not the other if it is TN doing it. Tehachapi News administrators reserve the right to lock a blog post. Locking simply means no additional comments may be left on that particular post. While we try to avoid taking such action, occasionally exchanges will become such between participants that the decision is made to either lock the post, or remove it entirely. We believe that locking a post is the lesser of two evils.<br /> <br /> Again, we wish to stress that this is something we <strong>do not</strong> enjoy having to do, and it is something that can easily be avoided if individuals posting to this site respect the Terms of Service, starting with the two ground rules posted in the &quot;Leave a Comment&quot; box. http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164816 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164816 Tehachapi News administrators reserve the right to lock a blog post. Locking simply means no additional comments may be left on that particular post. While we try to avoid taking such action, occasionally exchanges will become such between participants that the decision is made to either lock the post, or remove it entirely. We believe that locking a post is the lesser of two evils.<br /> <br /> Again, we wish to stress that this is something we <strong>do not</strong> enjoy having to do, and it is something that can easily be avoided if individuals posting to this site respect the Terms of Service, starting with the two ground rules posted in the &quot;Leave a Comment&quot; box. Thank you TN for responding.&nbsp; I was curious on what was really going on.&nbsp;&nbsp; And yes, I guess it is the less of two evils.&nbsp; Thank you again. http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164822 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164822 Thank you TN for responding.&nbsp; I was curious on what was really going on.&nbsp;&nbsp; And yes, I guess it is the less of two evils.&nbsp; Thank you again. <font size="3">So...why wasn't that "other" blog locked?</font> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164879 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164879 <font size="3">So...why wasn't that "other" blog locked?</font> I hope the TN answers that question too.&nbsp; The only thing I can think of is that this thread threatened a person's job so that was considered a real personal attack. http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164883 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164883 I hope the TN answers that question too.&nbsp; The only thing I can think of is that this thread threatened a person's job so that was considered a real personal attack. Whos job did it threaten ? Not mine. http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164888 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164888 Whos job did it threaten ? Not mine. <p>Thank you for removing that the profanity towards me rm6</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164893 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164893 <p>Thank you for removing that the profanity towards me rm6</p> The decision over which posts to pull, lock or leave up is largely up to the blogging community. In the case of the post that was left up, there were almost no complaints or violation reports from bloggers on the site, and in some cases the person placing the complaint was continuing to participate on the very same post.&nbsp; You can't have it both ways, where you complain that something is offending you, and at the same time are repeatedly returning to the same post and continuing to comment. <br /> <br /> Also, in the matter of the post to which you refer, there was much discussion on the post itself where several people stated that they wanted the post&nbsp; to stay on the site, even though they felt some of the material was &quot;strong&quot;, for lack of a better word. <br /> <br /> The overall lack of complaints (via violation reports, email, etc.) plus the stated desires of several participants to have the post remain on the site, kept the post on the site.<br /> <br /> The general idea is that people on the site are adults, and will conduct themselves in an adult manner. The overwhelming majority of the time, that happens. On those occasions when it doesn't, we do the best job we can to take appropriate action, given the circumstances.<br /> <br /> &nbsp;Will everything we do please everyone, every time we do it? Of course not. But we'll continue to do our best to be as fair and reasonable and, most of all, invisible as you allow us to be. http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164896 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164896 The decision over which posts to pull, lock or leave up is largely up to the blogging community. In the case of the post that was left up, there were almost no complaints or violation reports from bloggers on the site, and in some cases the person placing the complaint was continuing to participate on the very same post.&nbsp; You can't have it both ways, where you complain that something is offending you, and at the same time are repeatedly returning to the same post and continuing to comment. <br /> <br /> Also, in the matter of the post to which you refer, there was much discussion on the post itself where several people stated that they wanted the post&nbsp; to stay on the site, even though they felt some of the material was &quot;strong&quot;, for lack of a better word. <br /> <br /> The overall lack of complaints (via violation reports, email, etc.) plus the stated desires of several participants to have the post remain on the site, kept the post on the site.<br /> <br /> The general idea is that people on the site are adults, and will conduct themselves in an adult manner. The overwhelming majority of the time, that happens. On those occasions when it doesn't, we do the best job we can to take appropriate action, given the circumstances.<br /> <br /> &nbsp;Will everything we do please everyone, every time we do it? Of course not. But we'll continue to do our best to be as fair and reasonable and, most of all, invisible as you allow us to be. Thank you again TN, that makes very good sense.&nbsp; And yes I think we all see clearer now.&nbsp; Thank you. http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164898 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164898 Thank you again TN, that makes very good sense.&nbsp; And yes I think we all see clearer now.&nbsp; Thank you. Ok gube, that wasn't your job but the point&nbsp;being is when it effects not the post but a witch hunt outside this arena.&nbsp; Understand now.&nbsp; Not saying you are or you are not, but if Level4 is going to send this crap to &quot;Shane's&quot; job, that isn't fair either.&nbsp; Even if absolutely no body likes him, if it isn't him it's not right, and if it is him it isn't right.&nbsp; But ok gube, once again I will say it this time....GUBE IS NOT SHANE.&nbsp; Feel better? http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164899 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164899 Ok gube, that wasn't your job but the point&nbsp;being is when it effects not the post but a witch hunt outside this arena.&nbsp; Understand now.&nbsp; Not saying you are or you are not, but if Level4 is going to send this crap to &quot;Shane's&quot; job, that isn't fair either.&nbsp; Even if absolutely no body likes him, if it isn't him it's not right, and if it is him it isn't right.&nbsp; But ok gube, once again I will say it this time....GUBE IS NOT SHANE.&nbsp; Feel better? <p>I just went back and reread this locked post. There is A LOT of posts missing. I find it funny that people erased their posts or TN did and now the thread is locked. Giving people a false idea of what was all in the original blog.  </p> <p>A good rule of thumb GUBE! Don't write anything that you'll have to erase. Be it 1 min, 5 min, or a day later. I notice you do this VERY often. If you are so innocent of everything why are you sooooooooo good at backpedaling and "covering ' things up.</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164905 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164905 <p>I just went back and reread this locked post. There is A LOT of posts missing. I find it funny that people erased their posts or TN did and now the thread is locked. Giving people a false idea of what was all in the original blog.  </p> <p>A good rule of thumb GUBE! Don't write anything that you'll have to erase. Be it 1 min, 5 min, or a day later. I notice you do this VERY often. If you are so innocent of everything why are you sooooooooo good at backpedaling and "covering ' things up.</p> <p>thank you colitas. Level4 is all hot air. He blogs under several names and they all have a problem with Shane.&nbsp; Shane's job is not in jeopardy. His bosses are probably informed of the situation and are most likely sitting back laughing at all you idiots that think I'm shane.</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164908 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164908 <p>thank you colitas. Level4 is all hot air. He blogs under several names and they all have a problem with Shane.&nbsp; Shane's job is not in jeopardy. His bosses are probably informed of the situation and are most likely sitting back laughing at all you idiots that think I'm shane.</p> Countygirl i did not delete any comments on the locked thread. TN deleted them, not just mine but they deleted other peoples posts as well. I'm not back peddling. i told you already that it was for shock value. if you choose to believe the insane crap i posted that's up to you. I think i did a good job because i have many complaints.lol that was my goal job well done. lol http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164910 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164910 Countygirl i did not delete any comments on the locked thread. TN deleted them, not just mine but they deleted other peoples posts as well. I'm not back peddling. i told you already that it was for shock value. if you choose to believe the insane crap i posted that's up to you. I think i did a good job because i have many complaints.lol that was my goal job well done. lol <font size="3">How stupid to remove some posts and lock the blog. Just delete the entire thing and be done with it, geez!</font> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164915 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164915 <font size="3">How stupid to remove some posts and lock the blog. Just delete the entire thing and be done with it, geez!</font> Thank you Shane. http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164917 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164917 Thank you Shane. <p>I reported Gube on the immigration site as a violation, maybe this is why it is locked.&nbsp; I do however stand behind every post I made as they were thought out and never attacked or put down or threatened to shoot anyone.&nbsp;&nbsp; I do think it is funny that now Gube is saying </p> <p>&quot;if you choose to believe the insane crap i posted that's up to you. I think i did a good job because i have many complaints.&quot;</p> <p>In his statement he calls his posts insane crap, that is the only truth hes spoken in all of this.&nbsp; Gube people are trying to discuss real issues that affect REAL people try to keep it real be an adult and get your point across without threats and attacks.&nbsp; Point is they are here and more are coming and your government will do nothing about it because they make so many people so much money, they are exploited and that's why we need a workers program.&nbsp; So in the meantime be a real human who loves people and try to come up with a solution other than shooting the people who are feeding you.</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164966 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164966 <p>I reported Gube on the immigration site as a violation, maybe this is why it is locked.&nbsp; I do however stand behind every post I made as they were thought out and never attacked or put down or threatened to shoot anyone.&nbsp;&nbsp; I do think it is funny that now Gube is saying </p> <p>&quot;if you choose to believe the insane crap i posted that's up to you. I think i did a good job because i have many complaints.&quot;</p> <p>In his statement he calls his posts insane crap, that is the only truth hes spoken in all of this.&nbsp; Gube people are trying to discuss real issues that affect REAL people try to keep it real be an adult and get your point across without threats and attacks.&nbsp; Point is they are here and more are coming and your government will do nothing about it because they make so many people so much money, they are exploited and that's why we need a workers program.&nbsp; So in the meantime be a real human who loves people and try to come up with a solution other than shooting the people who are feeding you.</p> who deleted my post and why ? http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164986 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164986 who deleted my post and why ? I did not hope <strong>you</strong> would get in trouble at work.&nbsp; If someone knows who Gube is&nbsp;and if he is a public servant then the comments he publicly made were counter productive to his public job.&nbsp;&nbsp; Talking of shooting people and the hate blog he put out there was all wrong.&nbsp; If it was you I'd turn you in in one heartbeat.&nbsp; But not knowing who it is who knows?&nbsp; I dont recall anyone saying he was you level 4 was just saying he knew who it was.&nbsp; With what he was saying I would have never put a name to anyone as I do not know any C.Os and few firemen. http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164989 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164989 I did not hope <strong>you</strong> would get in trouble at work.&nbsp; If someone knows who Gube is&nbsp;and if he is a public servant then the comments he publicly made were counter productive to his public job.&nbsp;&nbsp; Talking of shooting people and the hate blog he put out there was all wrong.&nbsp; If it was you I'd turn you in in one heartbeat.&nbsp; But not knowing who it is who knows?&nbsp; I dont recall anyone saying he was you level 4 was just saying he knew who it was.&nbsp; With what he was saying I would have never put a name to anyone as I do not know any C.Os and few firemen. <em>Wow, just got off work, I guess this topic did take on a life of it's own.&nbsp; As I've stated before, how can people get so worked up over this crap.&nbsp; Xcite, you were the one that was delusion in your thinking that gube was Shane, you were talking all kinds of crap about getting his &quot;commanders and staff&quot; to know what kind of stuff he was saying.&nbsp; Level4 pipes in with mail me his name or email or whatever the hell he said.&nbsp; (or maybe it was the other way around). You were neck up into wanting this fictional character in trouble with work.&nbsp; If you don't like the topic or the way the topic is going, delete your comments and don't go back.&nbsp; Who are you trying to convince?&nbsp; The very few Tehachapi Bloggers of America?&nbsp; Illegal immigrants are illegal.&nbsp; Where is the argument in that?&nbsp; </em> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164998 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_164998 <em>Wow, just got off work, I guess this topic did take on a life of it's own.&nbsp; As I've stated before, how can people get so worked up over this crap.&nbsp; Xcite, you were the one that was delusion in your thinking that gube was Shane, you were talking all kinds of crap about getting his &quot;commanders and staff&quot; to know what kind of stuff he was saying.&nbsp; Level4 pipes in with mail me his name or email or whatever the hell he said.&nbsp; (or maybe it was the other way around). You were neck up into wanting this fictional character in trouble with work.&nbsp; If you don't like the topic or the way the topic is going, delete your comments and don't go back.&nbsp; Who are you trying to convince?&nbsp; The very few Tehachapi Bloggers of America?&nbsp; Illegal immigrants are illegal.&nbsp; Where is the argument in that?&nbsp; </em> <p>xcite why were you wanting level4 to email you his name?</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165000 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165000 <p>xcite why were you wanting level4 to email you his name?</p> gube I didn't edit any of my posts, the TN did, I meant what I said, whether or not you were joking or just &quot;playing&quot; with us or whatever,&nbsp;I like messing with people too, but&nbsp;there are some things you just don't say or joke about http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165012 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165012 gube I didn't edit any of my posts, the TN did, I meant what I said, whether or not you were joking or just &quot;playing&quot; with us or whatever,&nbsp;I like messing with people too, but&nbsp;there are some things you just don't say or joke about Olivia, Olivia a firefighter/police officer/ CO has a command staff this does not mean you know who it is.  And yes again I would turn in any public employee speaking such crap.  I never said I wouldn't or knew who level 4 was alluding to.  Olivia just sit in your home that was built by illegal labor and eat your food picked by illegal labor and shop and at places maintained by illegal labor and be happy.   illegal means illegal but you will still shop and benefit from all this illegal labor wont you.  I'm not trying to convince anyone people like you who have closed minds do not appreciate the hand that feeds you and will never be convinced.  I just can not believe such blatant racism exist in America today.   No one invited the Pilgrims here they were the first illegals.  It miffs me that one group can claim any ownership over another in this stolen country.  http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165027 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165027 Olivia, Olivia a firefighter/police officer/ CO has a command staff this does not mean you know who it is.  And yes again I would turn in any public employee speaking such crap.  I never said I wouldn't or knew who level 4 was alluding to.  Olivia just sit in your home that was built by illegal labor and eat your food picked by illegal labor and shop and at places maintained by illegal labor and be happy.   illegal means illegal but you will still shop and benefit from all this illegal labor wont you.  I'm not trying to convince anyone people like you who have closed minds do not appreciate the hand that feeds you and will never be convinced.  I just can not believe such blatant racism exist in America today.   No one invited the Pilgrims here they were the first illegals.  It miffs me that one group can claim any ownership over another in this stolen country.  <p><em>xcite, xcite, xcite....yeah I guess I will eat my illegal vegetables, and live in my illegal home and shop at places maintained by illegal labor.  My MIFF, are those illegal immigrants who come over to America, don't have to show any form of ID, SSN, and get free healthcare, free food, free money.  That's crap.  There is no other way to put it other than, that's crap.  Take away the illegal immigrants, give the poor, lazy American (white, black, brown, red, purple, green) people on welfare a choice between eating and taking the jobs that are left over after the illegals are deported and a lot of problems would be solved.</em></p> <p><em>How many jobs do you think are being taken by illegal immigrants?  Because I have no idea how many.  I know that the American businesses are taking advantage of illegal immigrants by not offering the wage they would have to pay an American.  How much money do you think these farmers get?  You think they aren't making a killing off the illegal immigrants sweat?  They don't have to offer healthcare to these people, because these people don't have a say so.  Is that fair to them?  Are you in favor of this treatment of anyone?  I don't see how anyone could be in favor of such things. </em></p> <p><em>"You stating that you would turn in any public employee speaking such crap"  please make sure you know for certain that it is <u>that employee</u> who is talking the crap.  </em></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165033 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165033 <p><em>xcite, xcite, xcite....yeah I guess I will eat my illegal vegetables, and live in my illegal home and shop at places maintained by illegal labor.  My MIFF, are those illegal immigrants who come over to America, don't have to show any form of ID, SSN, and get free healthcare, free food, free money.  That's crap.  There is no other way to put it other than, that's crap.  Take away the illegal immigrants, give the poor, lazy American (white, black, brown, red, purple, green) people on welfare a choice between eating and taking the jobs that are left over after the illegals are deported and a lot of problems would be solved.</em></p> <p><em>How many jobs do you think are being taken by illegal immigrants?  Because I have no idea how many.  I know that the American businesses are taking advantage of illegal immigrants by not offering the wage they would have to pay an American.  How much money do you think these farmers get?  You think they aren't making a killing off the illegal immigrants sweat?  They don't have to offer healthcare to these people, because these people don't have a say so.  Is that fair to them?  Are you in favor of this treatment of anyone?  I don't see how anyone could be in favor of such things. </em></p> <p><em>"You stating that you would turn in any public employee speaking such crap"  please make sure you know for certain that it is <u>that employee</u> who is talking the crap.  </em></p> lol http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165037 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165037 lol <p><em>Okay Shane....You have to admit the comment from paralegal was pretty funny, her using her expertise and knowledge in &quot;figuring out&quot; who Gube was.&nbsp; It was all based on him using the term &quot;LOL&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp;That's&nbsp;one of&nbsp;her statements that make you go&nbsp;hmmmm.</em></p> <p><em>&nbsp; I know by her &quot;expertise and knowledge&quot; if she is a paralegal or lawyer, or anyone that has any importance to the community, that I will stay clear of her. &nbsp;I never thought or even cared who gube is, was, or wants to be.&nbsp; I didn't think it was anyone I knew here posting.&nbsp; Just the same ol gube.&nbsp; Kind of like, Jim or trouble.&nbsp; Someone trying to raise hairs.</em></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165038 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165038 <p><em>Okay Shane....You have to admit the comment from paralegal was pretty funny, her using her expertise and knowledge in &quot;figuring out&quot; who Gube was.&nbsp; It was all based on him using the term &quot;LOL&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp;That's&nbsp;one of&nbsp;her statements that make you go&nbsp;hmmmm.</em></p> <p><em>&nbsp; I know by her &quot;expertise and knowledge&quot; if she is a paralegal or lawyer, or anyone that has any importance to the community, that I will stay clear of her. &nbsp;I never thought or even cared who gube is, was, or wants to be.&nbsp; I didn't think it was anyone I knew here posting.&nbsp; Just the same ol gube.&nbsp; Kind of like, Jim or trouble.&nbsp; Someone trying to raise hairs.</em></p> <p>theoneandonlyshane, I already told you I had no idea who it was Level 4 was indicating.&nbsp; So why are you taking it personal?&nbsp; What is strange to me is how you popped up when you thought someone was indicating you, hmmm.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm not part of any city group and wouldn't want to be a big fish in this small bowl.&nbsp; The fact that you called out someone that you publicly supported (see Shane's past bloggs supporting Beckham) indicates to me that you are a flip flop non trustworthy person at best..&nbsp; You can bet if it was proven to be you or anyone els in public service I would have turned them in.&nbsp;</p> <p>Olivia you prove my point.&nbsp; &nbsp;The IRS commonly issues tax payer IDs to illegals to make sure that they get taxes.&nbsp; If these Americans you speak of would have gotten up and went out to work in the first place the demand for labor would not have been there.&nbsp;&nbsp; I dont know where you get your information that living life here as an illegal is a great big grab bag of give outs.&nbsp; Olivia you prove my point further by this quote&nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;<em>They don't have to offer healthcare to these people, because these people don't have a say so.&nbsp; Is that fair to them?&nbsp; Are you in favor of this treatment of anyone?&nbsp; I don't see how anyone could be in favor of such things&quot;&nbsp; .</em>&nbsp;So in on sentence you say they take free welfare healthcare and the next this?&nbsp; which is it??????&nbsp; Thank you for proving my point so well.&nbsp; All my posts maintained the same thought that illegals are taken advantage of by industry and then hated by people who cant see or unwilling to see the big picture.&nbsp; </p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165041 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165041 <p>theoneandonlyshane, I already told you I had no idea who it was Level 4 was indicating.&nbsp; So why are you taking it personal?&nbsp; What is strange to me is how you popped up when you thought someone was indicating you, hmmm.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm not part of any city group and wouldn't want to be a big fish in this small bowl.&nbsp; The fact that you called out someone that you publicly supported (see Shane's past bloggs supporting Beckham) indicates to me that you are a flip flop non trustworthy person at best..&nbsp; You can bet if it was proven to be you or anyone els in public service I would have turned them in.&nbsp;</p> <p>Olivia you prove my point.&nbsp; &nbsp;The IRS commonly issues tax payer IDs to illegals to make sure that they get taxes.&nbsp; If these Americans you speak of would have gotten up and went out to work in the first place the demand for labor would not have been there.&nbsp;&nbsp; I dont know where you get your information that living life here as an illegal is a great big grab bag of give outs.&nbsp; Olivia you prove my point further by this quote&nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;<em>They don't have to offer healthcare to these people, because these people don't have a say so.&nbsp; Is that fair to them?&nbsp; Are you in favor of this treatment of anyone?&nbsp; I don't see how anyone could be in favor of such things&quot;&nbsp; .</em>&nbsp;So in on sentence you say they take free welfare healthcare and the next this?&nbsp; which is it??????&nbsp; Thank you for proving my point so well.&nbsp; All my posts maintained the same thought that illegals are taken advantage of by industry and then hated by people who cant see or unwilling to see the big picture.&nbsp; </p> Isnt it funny that most of the 911 hijackers came here from the Canadian border yet you want to shut off Mexico first.&nbsp; Crossing the border to frame a house or pick fruit is much different than hijacking planes.&nbsp;&nbsp; http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165044 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165044 Isnt it funny that most of the 911 hijackers came here from the Canadian border yet you want to shut off Mexico first.&nbsp; Crossing the border to frame a house or pick fruit is much different than hijacking planes.&nbsp;&nbsp; <p>Ok xcite, you win, you are right, I am wrong.&nbsp; You didn't ask level4 for shane's name.&nbsp; That was a figment of my imagination.&nbsp; I think you are a strange person.&nbsp; Are you Jim??? LOL.&nbsp; I'm sure&nbsp;Shane is taking it personal because you&nbsp;were ready to turn him into his command staff after getting the info you wanted from level4.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>The illegal immigrants ARE taking free welfare, healthcare and food.&nbsp; They don't have&nbsp;Social Security Numbers.&nbsp; If I were to walk in to the Welfare Dept and apply for any kind of aid and not produce a SSN, I'd be shit out of luck.&nbsp; They are also taking jobs away from American's who would work these jobs.&nbsp; There are&nbsp;multiple categories of illegal immigrants, just as there are multiple categories of&nbsp;American's.&nbsp; Some will work hard, some will put their hand out and want the freebies.&nbsp; There are lazy American's and there are&nbsp;lazy&nbsp;illegal immigrants.&nbsp;&nbsp;I didn't make up the term illegal immigrant.&nbsp; I didn't make up the term DUI, or possession of controlled substance, or jaywalking, or shoplifting or any of these terms considered &quot;illegal&quot;.&nbsp; If I ran around doing illegal things, I'd expect to&nbsp;eventually be caught and suffer the consequences.&nbsp; I think I'm done arguing this point with you.&nbsp; I think you get off to reaction.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165047 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165047 <p>Ok xcite, you win, you are right, I am wrong.&nbsp; You didn't ask level4 for shane's name.&nbsp; That was a figment of my imagination.&nbsp; I think you are a strange person.&nbsp; Are you Jim??? LOL.&nbsp; I'm sure&nbsp;Shane is taking it personal because you&nbsp;were ready to turn him into his command staff after getting the info you wanted from level4.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>The illegal immigrants ARE taking free welfare, healthcare and food.&nbsp; They don't have&nbsp;Social Security Numbers.&nbsp; If I were to walk in to the Welfare Dept and apply for any kind of aid and not produce a SSN, I'd be shit out of luck.&nbsp; They are also taking jobs away from American's who would work these jobs.&nbsp; There are&nbsp;multiple categories of illegal immigrants, just as there are multiple categories of&nbsp;American's.&nbsp; Some will work hard, some will put their hand out and want the freebies.&nbsp; There are lazy American's and there are&nbsp;lazy&nbsp;illegal immigrants.&nbsp;&nbsp;I didn't make up the term illegal immigrant.&nbsp; I didn't make up the term DUI, or possession of controlled substance, or jaywalking, or shoplifting or any of these terms considered &quot;illegal&quot;.&nbsp; If I ran around doing illegal things, I'd expect to&nbsp;eventually be caught and suffer the consequences.&nbsp; I think I'm done arguing this point with you.&nbsp; I think you get off to reaction.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p> <p><em>xcite, if you wanted level4 to email you with Shane's name, how could level4 do that if your profile is not public?&nbsp; I'm thinking you are level4.&nbsp; Kind of calling the kettle black aren't you?&nbsp; With my expertise and knowledge, I have figured this out.&nbsp; LOL.&nbsp; Or ...by using LOL, am I Gube?&nbsp;&nbsp; You guys are a bunch of nuts.&nbsp; xcite....you need to change you name....to booooring!! Crap, was that a personal attack?&nbsp; </em></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165054 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165054 <p><em>xcite, if you wanted level4 to email you with Shane's name, how could level4 do that if your profile is not public?&nbsp; I'm thinking you are level4.&nbsp; Kind of calling the kettle black aren't you?&nbsp; With my expertise and knowledge, I have figured this out.&nbsp; LOL.&nbsp; Or ...by using LOL, am I Gube?&nbsp;&nbsp; You guys are a bunch of nuts.&nbsp; xcite....you need to change you name....to booooring!! Crap, was that a personal attack?&nbsp; </em></p> <p>Flip Flop definition</p> <p><strong><em>strong support for someone or something then reversing.</em></strong>&nbsp; Shane maybe you would make a great politician you've got the flip flop and attempted recovery down.&nbsp; You should study more those you chose to support before <strong><em>very strong </em></strong>support is given.&nbsp; Flip Flopper!&nbsp; I wonder how many mistakes you will see&nbsp; after you make them if you get city council?&nbsp; Maybe you should just skip City and go for the presidency you and Hillary would be great together.&nbsp; </p> <p>Olivia it was a figment of your imagination i did not ask for <strong>SHANES</strong> name i asked for Gubes name whoever it might be.&nbsp; You and Shane are the ones inserting his name there.&nbsp; You know how you would be s.o.l. asking for welfare so would an illegal.&nbsp; Did you speak to an illegal who told you they get it where does your info come from?&nbsp; beside your imagination. </p> <p>All i am trying to do is stick up for the downtrodden people who come here to work and make a better life.&nbsp; They are pursuing the dream spelled out on the statue of liberty that was a good enough dream for your ancestors but not these people, why?&nbsp; This mentality is just like whats going on now with development in Tehachapi everyone wants to shut it down once there home is built.&nbsp; Pathetic inhumane and UN American.&nbsp; </p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165056 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165056 <p>Flip Flop definition</p> <p><strong><em>strong support for someone or something then reversing.</em></strong>&nbsp; Shane maybe you would make a great politician you've got the flip flop and attempted recovery down.&nbsp; You should study more those you chose to support before <strong><em>very strong </em></strong>support is given.&nbsp; Flip Flopper!&nbsp; I wonder how many mistakes you will see&nbsp; after you make them if you get city council?&nbsp; Maybe you should just skip City and go for the presidency you and Hillary would be great together.&nbsp; </p> <p>Olivia it was a figment of your imagination i did not ask for <strong>SHANES</strong> name i asked for Gubes name whoever it might be.&nbsp; You and Shane are the ones inserting his name there.&nbsp; You know how you would be s.o.l. asking for welfare so would an illegal.&nbsp; Did you speak to an illegal who told you they get it where does your info come from?&nbsp; beside your imagination. </p> <p>All i am trying to do is stick up for the downtrodden people who come here to work and make a better life.&nbsp; They are pursuing the dream spelled out on the statue of liberty that was a good enough dream for your ancestors but not these people, why?&nbsp; This mentality is just like whats going on now with development in Tehachapi everyone wants to shut it down once there home is built.&nbsp; Pathetic inhumane and UN American.&nbsp; </p> Shane if the illegals were costing more than making the government believe me they would have fixed the problem.&nbsp; They want to keep people like you focused on silly things so you wont notice all your money flying out of your wallet to Wars and Oil.&nbsp; The only real reason for securing the borders in the terrorist threat.&nbsp; I never said that i did not want secure borders.&nbsp; I just want people to leave the working people alone.&nbsp;&nbsp; Believe me they do not come all this way to collect welfare they come like my grandfather did so his children's children can be educated and own business and land and have a future.&nbsp; I may be an Anchor Baby as some of you would call me but i bet I now have much, much, more than most of you.&nbsp;This is all due to hard work not welfare.&nbsp; &nbsp;Don't worry I'm going back to Mexico but not until after I divide all my land here and let someone put KB homes on it.&nbsp;&nbsp; Olivia yes that was a personal attack thats what all people of low I.Q. do when out argued.&nbsp; Was that a personal attack? lol http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165060 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165060 Shane if the illegals were costing more than making the government believe me they would have fixed the problem.&nbsp; They want to keep people like you focused on silly things so you wont notice all your money flying out of your wallet to Wars and Oil.&nbsp; The only real reason for securing the borders in the terrorist threat.&nbsp; I never said that i did not want secure borders.&nbsp; I just want people to leave the working people alone.&nbsp;&nbsp; Believe me they do not come all this way to collect welfare they come like my grandfather did so his children's children can be educated and own business and land and have a future.&nbsp; I may be an Anchor Baby as some of you would call me but i bet I now have much, much, more than most of you.&nbsp;This is all due to hard work not welfare.&nbsp; &nbsp;Don't worry I'm going back to Mexico but not until after I divide all my land here and let someone put KB homes on it.&nbsp;&nbsp; Olivia yes that was a personal attack thats what all people of low I.Q. do when out argued.&nbsp; Was that a personal attack? lol <p><em>No, I didn't speak to an illegal.&nbsp; I spoke to a legal hispanic....who was giggling when she told me all she had to do was go into the welfare department and no habla english, and bam.....she got her little green medi cal card.&nbsp;&nbsp;She wanted the free freaking healthcare.&nbsp; She claimed to have no ID, no birth certificate, she was pregnant and poor.&nbsp; She came up to me and told me this and I would have and still would turn her in for it if I had any idea of what name she used or how she did it.</em></p> <p><em>She not only works two jobs and her illegal immigrant husband is also working.&nbsp; Who by the way got&nbsp;this girl pregnant, and is also cheating on her.&nbsp; But...what the hell....she has spent thousands of her American dollars trying to&nbsp;get this man she loves legal.&nbsp; Not only are these illegal immigrants &quot;illegal&quot;&nbsp; they are praying on our hispanic american women in order to become legal.&nbsp; </em></p> <p><em>Maybe you are paralegal.&nbsp; You kind of sound like her.&nbsp; I know you are blogging under different names it's obvious by the comments you have made.&nbsp; Like I said, my expertise and my knowledge.&nbsp; I am well trained&nbsp;in this kind of behavior.&nbsp; I have&nbsp;dealt with wackos, liars and morons for many years.</em></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165062 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165062 <p><em>No, I didn't speak to an illegal.&nbsp; I spoke to a legal hispanic....who was giggling when she told me all she had to do was go into the welfare department and no habla english, and bam.....she got her little green medi cal card.&nbsp;&nbsp;She wanted the free freaking healthcare.&nbsp; She claimed to have no ID, no birth certificate, she was pregnant and poor.&nbsp; She came up to me and told me this and I would have and still would turn her in for it if I had any idea of what name she used or how she did it.</em></p> <p><em>She not only works two jobs and her illegal immigrant husband is also working.&nbsp; Who by the way got&nbsp;this girl pregnant, and is also cheating on her.&nbsp; But...what the hell....she has spent thousands of her American dollars trying to&nbsp;get this man she loves legal.&nbsp; Not only are these illegal immigrants &quot;illegal&quot;&nbsp; they are praying on our hispanic american women in order to become legal.&nbsp; </em></p> <p><em>Maybe you are paralegal.&nbsp; You kind of sound like her.&nbsp; I know you are blogging under different names it's obvious by the comments you have made.&nbsp; Like I said, my expertise and my knowledge.&nbsp; I am well trained&nbsp;in this kind of behavior.&nbsp; I have&nbsp;dealt with wackos, liars and morons for many years.</em></p> <p>Olivia trust me i have no other names on here.&nbsp; Your many years of dealing with &quot;wackos, liars, and morons, has seemed to rubbed off just a bit on ya.&nbsp;&nbsp; If sticking up for the poor, weak, and taken advantage of makes me those things I will wear the title with honor.&nbsp;&nbsp; I still love you Olivia your just confused.&nbsp; Shane are you trying to fool us or yourself &quot;trying to be the middle guy&quot; you are all over the place but definitely not in the middle.&nbsp;&nbsp; Shane you really should run cause your exactly like the ones you complain about so you would be at home right in the middle of them.&nbsp; You wanted to live by this blog but dont want the heat when that time comes?&nbsp; Get ready please run for council.</p> <p>God Bless America</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165065 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165065 <p>Olivia trust me i have no other names on here.&nbsp; Your many years of dealing with &quot;wackos, liars, and morons, has seemed to rubbed off just a bit on ya.&nbsp;&nbsp; If sticking up for the poor, weak, and taken advantage of makes me those things I will wear the title with honor.&nbsp;&nbsp; I still love you Olivia your just confused.&nbsp; Shane are you trying to fool us or yourself &quot;trying to be the middle guy&quot; you are all over the place but definitely not in the middle.&nbsp;&nbsp; Shane you really should run cause your exactly like the ones you complain about so you would be at home right in the middle of them.&nbsp; You wanted to live by this blog but dont want the heat when that time comes?&nbsp; Get ready please run for council.</p> <p>God Bless America</p> Yeah Shane, I'm done with this person.&nbsp; He/she obviously has a chip on their shoulder.&nbsp; Sounds all too familiar to me.&nbsp; Won't respond to the comments or posts, just keeps repeating things over and over.&nbsp;&nbsp; I give up.... what movie did that saying come from?&nbsp; http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165069 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165069 Yeah Shane, I'm done with this person.&nbsp; He/she obviously has a chip on their shoulder.&nbsp; Sounds all too familiar to me.&nbsp; Won't respond to the comments or posts, just keeps repeating things over and over.&nbsp;&nbsp; I give up.... what movie did that saying come from?&nbsp; Was it &quot;Freaks and Geeks&quot;? http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165074 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165074 Was it &quot;Freaks and Geeks&quot;? I am so glad I am not alone now in defending a person's right to remain anonymous.&nbsp; Or was it &quot;Get Shorty&quot;? http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165075 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165075 I am so glad I am not alone now in defending a person's right to remain anonymous.&nbsp; Or was it &quot;Get Shorty&quot;? Not &quot;Get Shorty&quot;, I meant &quot;Pulp Fiction&quot; http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165077 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165077 Not &quot;Get Shorty&quot;, I meant &quot;Pulp Fiction&quot; <p>&nbsp;If sticking up for the poor, weak, and taken advantage of makes me those things I will wear the title</p> <p>xcite i think you mean if sticking up for the illegal aliens that are breaking the law.......................</p> <p>trying to debate the likes of xcite is useless because they have no respect for the laws. When you bring up that&nbsp; laws are being&nbsp; broken they ignore that important&nbsp;piece of information. There is no debate. Illegal aliens are criminals period. If a immigrant is legal then he should be required to have a thumb print on file with the immigration Dept. When the immigrant applies for a job then he must submit a thumb print and cross check it with the immigration Dept. If the print doesn't match, NO JOB. Stiff fines should be levied against employers that hire illegal alien. With jail time for future offenses.</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165084 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165084 <p>&nbsp;If sticking up for the poor, weak, and taken advantage of makes me those things I will wear the title</p> <p>xcite i think you mean if sticking up for the illegal aliens that are breaking the law.......................</p> <p>trying to debate the likes of xcite is useless because they have no respect for the laws. When you bring up that&nbsp; laws are being&nbsp; broken they ignore that important&nbsp;piece of information. There is no debate. Illegal aliens are criminals period. If a immigrant is legal then he should be required to have a thumb print on file with the immigration Dept. When the immigrant applies for a job then he must submit a thumb print and cross check it with the immigration Dept. If the print doesn't match, NO JOB. Stiff fines should be levied against employers that hire illegal alien. With jail time for future offenses.</p> Blazing saddles http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165093 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165093 Blazing saddles Tombstone http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165099 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165099 Tombstone <p>blah blah</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165107 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165107 <p>blah blah</p> <p>It had the guy that played &quot;Goose&quot; in TopGun in it. It also had Batman in it.</p> <p>and&nbsp;didn't Val Kilmer player Iceman in TopGun ?</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165109 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165109 <p>It had the guy that played &quot;Goose&quot; in TopGun in it. It also had Batman in it.</p> <p>and&nbsp;didn't Val Kilmer player Iceman in TopGun ?</p> <p><em>LOL, level4 get over it.&nbsp; Shane is not gube. If you are a person with any credibility whatsoever, I'm hoping for your sake that you don't take this crap to his &quot;command staff&quot;.&nbsp; They are gonna think you are as fruity as a nutcake.&nbsp; </em></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165122 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165122 <p><em>LOL, level4 get over it.&nbsp; Shane is not gube. If you are a person with any credibility whatsoever, I'm hoping for your sake that you don't take this crap to his &quot;command staff&quot;.&nbsp; They are gonna think you are as fruity as a nutcake.&nbsp; </em></p> <p>Damn, I don't&nbsp; use my computer for a day and look what happen.&nbsp; I missed a get together with countygirl and olivia and joty with the camera....I am starting to get jealous here!!!&nbsp; </p> <p><em>LOL, Colitas, it could have been fun girl....but I&nbsp;have a feeling &quot;us girls&quot; would all only be takers on the event.&nbsp; We need to find &quot;a giver in the bunch&quot;.</em>&nbsp; : )&nbsp;<em> NO BIGDOG, that doesn't mean you!!!</em></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165123 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165123 <p>Damn, I don't&nbsp; use my computer for a day and look what happen.&nbsp; I missed a get together with countygirl and olivia and joty with the camera....I am starting to get jealous here!!!&nbsp; </p> <p><em>LOL, Colitas, it could have been fun girl....but I&nbsp;have a feeling &quot;us girls&quot; would all only be takers on the event.&nbsp; We need to find &quot;a giver in the bunch&quot;.</em>&nbsp; : )&nbsp;<em> NO BIGDOG, that doesn't mean you!!!</em></p> LOL, as I was reading your comment I was I thought of bigdog piping in and saying he'll help out ;)&nbsp; So good looking out! http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165148 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165148 LOL, as I was reading your comment I was I thought of bigdog piping in and saying he'll help out ;)&nbsp; So good looking out! <p><strong><font size="3">I normally would offer to sacrifice myself to your worth while cause but I'm looking at the calender&nbsp; on the wall above the computer and well..... Olivia has made me a PMS calender and it says that i need to be an good behavior. </font></strong></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165159 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165159 <p><strong><font size="3">I normally would offer to sacrifice myself to your worth while cause but I'm looking at the calender&nbsp; on the wall above the computer and well..... Olivia has made me a PMS calender and it says that i need to be an good behavior. </font></strong></p> <strong><font size="5">yo colitas what the hell.....watcha thinking of bigdog for he's a big puss whos afraid of his wife,what a puss. now if you girls want a real man , then thats me. and you can bet that i am a giver.i'll give you all i got.&nbsp;Where's GregL?</font></strong> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165167 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165167 <strong><font size="5">yo colitas what the hell.....watcha thinking of bigdog for he's a big puss whos afraid of his wife,what a puss. now if you girls want a real man , then thats me. and you can bet that i am a giver.i'll give you all i got.&nbsp;Where's GregL?</font></strong> <p><font size="3">Welcome back Shane!!!!!</font></p> <p><font size="3">My brother-in-law was born and raised behind the Berlin Wall. When it fell, one of the first places he wanted to visit was the good ol' USA. He loved it, loved our country so much he wanted to live here. Because he is East German and raised to obey and fear authority, he refused to do anything illegal to get here. </font></p> <p><font size="3">He is allowed to visit a few times a year for short periods of time but was denied the privilage of living here. So yes, xcite, I hate illegal immigrants for more than the obvious reasons. I get tired of hearing how exploited they are. So what? They made the choice to come here and be exploited, and enjoy the freedom and the <strong><em>free services</em></strong> and education here that I pay for!</font></p> <p><font size="3">And I am sooooo tired of hearing the arguement about this country being &quot;stolen&quot;. Oh, and go back to your history lessons.The Pilgrams were <strong><em>not</em></strong> the first white people to settle in America.</font></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165185 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165185 <p><font size="3">Welcome back Shane!!!!!</font></p> <p><font size="3">My brother-in-law was born and raised behind the Berlin Wall. When it fell, one of the first places he wanted to visit was the good ol' USA. He loved it, loved our country so much he wanted to live here. Because he is East German and raised to obey and fear authority, he refused to do anything illegal to get here. </font></p> <p><font size="3">He is allowed to visit a few times a year for short periods of time but was denied the privilage of living here. So yes, xcite, I hate illegal immigrants for more than the obvious reasons. I get tired of hearing how exploited they are. So what? They made the choice to come here and be exploited, and enjoy the freedom and the <strong><em>free services</em></strong> and education here that I pay for!</font></p> <p><font size="3">And I am sooooo tired of hearing the arguement about this country being &quot;stolen&quot;. Oh, and go back to your history lessons.The Pilgrams were <strong><em>not</em></strong> the first white people to settle in America.</font></p> <p>In response to "Isnt it funny that most of the 911 hijackers came here from the Canadian border..." posted by Xcite on Nov 19, 2007 at 08:04 PM </p> <p>None of the 19 hijackers entered the U.S. from either Canada or Mexico, information confirmed by former U.S. attorney general John Ashcroft and the 9/11 Commission. </p> <p> </p> <div class="bloggreytext"></div> <div class="bako_blogcomment"></div> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165235 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165235 <p>In response to "Isnt it funny that most of the 911 hijackers came here from the Canadian border..." posted by Xcite on Nov 19, 2007 at 08:04 PM </p> <p>None of the 19 hijackers entered the U.S. from either Canada or Mexico, information confirmed by former U.S. attorney general John Ashcroft and the 9/11 Commission. </p> <p> </p> <div class="bloggreytext"></div> <div class="bako_blogcomment"></div> <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#ff99cc" size="4">wow xcite you and followers are ruining our country. your blatant disregard for our laws is sickening. I see the tables turning as more ans more citizen's wake up to what is happening to our country.. We will Reach a point where we will demand that illegal immigration stops and the laws governing immigration will be carried out.</font></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165339 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165339 <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#ff99cc" size="4">wow xcite you and followers are ruining our country. your blatant disregard for our laws is sickening. I see the tables turning as more ans more citizen's wake up to what is happening to our country.. We will Reach a point where we will demand that illegal immigration stops and the laws governing immigration will be carried out.</font></p> <p>Joty Its really too bad that you hate anyone.  Sorry for you.  As for as you paying for anyone, REALLY how many of your dollars out of YOUR taxes do you think pays for anyone?  You probably get a tax return rather than pay for anything.  Get real and eat and enjoy your cheap illegal immigrant services.  And you should really try to stop hating its just hurting you.   </p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165340 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165340 <p>Joty Its really too bad that you hate anyone.  Sorry for you.  As for as you paying for anyone, REALLY how many of your dollars out of YOUR taxes do you think pays for anyone?  You probably get a tax return rather than pay for anything.  Get real and eat and enjoy your cheap illegal immigrant services.  And you should really try to stop hating its just hurting you.   </p> <p><font size="3">You don't need to be sorry for me xcite, really. As far as hating, you can't or won't get it through your thick skull the word <strong>ILLEGAL</strong>. I don't care how many people&nbsp;from whatever country come to <strong><em>this</em></strong> country as long as they do it <strong><u>by the book and don't drain the system</u></strong>. You just refuse to grasp that concept.</font></p> <p><font size="3">You keep repeating yourself about eating or enjoying illegal services. Just what services are you referring to? What do you enjoy?</font></p> <p><font size="3">Not that it is any of your business, no I don't get a tax return. It's been over 20 years since I've seen anything back. So I guess most of the taxes I pay are paying for someone else to get the health care I can't afford. You made a comment that you sit on more land and wealth than any of us...but I won't get into the hypocrisy there!</font></p> <p><font size="3">Happy Thanksgiving.</font></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165352 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165352 <p><font size="3">You don't need to be sorry for me xcite, really. As far as hating, you can't or won't get it through your thick skull the word <strong>ILLEGAL</strong>. I don't care how many people&nbsp;from whatever country come to <strong><em>this</em></strong> country as long as they do it <strong><u>by the book and don't drain the system</u></strong>. You just refuse to grasp that concept.</font></p> <p><font size="3">You keep repeating yourself about eating or enjoying illegal services. Just what services are you referring to? What do you enjoy?</font></p> <p><font size="3">Not that it is any of your business, no I don't get a tax return. It's been over 20 years since I've seen anything back. So I guess most of the taxes I pay are paying for someone else to get the health care I can't afford. You made a comment that you sit on more land and wealth than any of us...but I won't get into the hypocrisy there!</font></p> <p><font size="3">Happy Thanksgiving.</font></p> ahhh, just got off work.....I see xcite is still ignoring the word &quot;illegal&quot;.&nbsp; Hell I can't even remember what the original topic was.&nbsp; I'm just glad to be off work.&nbsp; It's was the day from HELL!!!!&nbsp; Anyway....I guess we are ordering pizza, unfortunately I like veggie pizza so I guess I should be thankful to all of those who picked the veggies for my pizza.&nbsp; I'd appreciate it if they were legal veggies I was eating.&nbsp; Maybe I'll plan on a garden in the spring. http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165357 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165357 ahhh, just got off work.....I see xcite is still ignoring the word &quot;illegal&quot;.&nbsp; Hell I can't even remember what the original topic was.&nbsp; I'm just glad to be off work.&nbsp; It's was the day from HELL!!!!&nbsp; Anyway....I guess we are ordering pizza, unfortunately I like veggie pizza so I guess I should be thankful to all of those who picked the veggies for my pizza.&nbsp; I'd appreciate it if they were legal veggies I was eating.&nbsp; Maybe I'll plan on a garden in the spring. <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">I was going to stay out of this, but xcite your math about tax returns is wrong.&nbsp; No matter if someone gets a tax refund.&nbsp; For every dollar of refund $4 has been spent.&nbsp; The word is illegal.&nbsp; No hate involved.&nbsp; Just illegal.&nbsp; Check out the cost to the taxpayer on my blog.&nbsp; You haven't come back with any comments or facts to prove your position.</font></p> <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">Olivia - joke for the day:&nbsp; &quot;I don't mind coming to work, but that 8 hour wait to go home is a b**ch!&quot;&nbsp; LOL</font></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165363 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165363 <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">I was going to stay out of this, but xcite your math about tax returns is wrong.&nbsp; No matter if someone gets a tax refund.&nbsp; For every dollar of refund $4 has been spent.&nbsp; The word is illegal.&nbsp; No hate involved.&nbsp; Just illegal.&nbsp; Check out the cost to the taxpayer on my blog.&nbsp; You haven't come back with any comments or facts to prove your position.</font></p> <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">Olivia - joke for the day:&nbsp; &quot;I don't mind coming to work, but that 8 hour wait to go home is a b**ch!&quot;&nbsp; LOL</font></p> <p>I understand that getting a return does not mean you haven't payed taxes.&nbsp; Its just the fact that if all &quot;illegals&quot; went away you would still pay the same tax and the government would still waste it.&nbsp; Everyone acts like their personal money goes to &quot;illegal&quot; immigrant problems, what was the personal cost to you? do you know?&nbsp;How do these people affect you personally on your daily life?&nbsp; What have they done to you? </p> <p>Joty since you ask the services I am referring to are; every time i eat at a restaurant, every time I stay in a hotel, every time I go to my home that was built this year by many &quot;illegal&quot; workers, every time I go to the store to buy produce and other Items, every time I am thankful that people are fighting a war for us (yes many are &quot;illegal&quot;)&nbsp; I enjoy all these services.&nbsp; And rather than biting the hand that feeds I would like to see some type of sensible program.&nbsp;&nbsp; If your main arguemnt is &quot;illegal means illegal&quot; then what if overnight the government made them legal workers would that make you happy?&nbsp; Is it not so much that you want a legal work system as you&nbsp;want them out of here, if so why is that?&nbsp; Why is it that you feel one ethnic group of people have anymore right over this land than another?&nbsp;</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165401 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165401 <p>I understand that getting a return does not mean you haven't payed taxes.&nbsp; Its just the fact that if all &quot;illegals&quot; went away you would still pay the same tax and the government would still waste it.&nbsp; Everyone acts like their personal money goes to &quot;illegal&quot; immigrant problems, what was the personal cost to you? do you know?&nbsp;How do these people affect you personally on your daily life?&nbsp; What have they done to you? </p> <p>Joty since you ask the services I am referring to are; every time i eat at a restaurant, every time I stay in a hotel, every time I go to my home that was built this year by many &quot;illegal&quot; workers, every time I go to the store to buy produce and other Items, every time I am thankful that people are fighting a war for us (yes many are &quot;illegal&quot;)&nbsp; I enjoy all these services.&nbsp; And rather than biting the hand that feeds I would like to see some type of sensible program.&nbsp;&nbsp; If your main arguemnt is &quot;illegal means illegal&quot; then what if overnight the government made them legal workers would that make you happy?&nbsp; Is it not so much that you want a legal work system as you&nbsp;want them out of here, if so why is that?&nbsp; Why is it that you feel one ethnic group of people have anymore right over this land than another?&nbsp;</p> <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">Our taxes might remain the same but then by logic the deficit would be lower and my kids and grandkids wouldn't have to pay that debt.  How do illegals affect my life.  The hard working average laborer benefits my life.  This could also be done by people who are here legally.  What have they done to me?  They have brought crime, corruption, and gang violence here through their kids.  I have to be more careful where I go in the evening, I have to be more careful when I drive, I have to secure my home, no more leaving the doors unlocked, even in the daytime.</font></p> <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">Explain to me why it is that the Latino culture makes up 35% of our population, yet is responsible for 85% of motor vehicle accidents and occupies 56% of our prison space?  The closer to the boarder the more these statistics change.  This is harm the illegals have brought to my life.</font></p> <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">And, by the way, if illegals built your home, you are guilty of exploiting them.  Do you know how often large home builders "neglect" to pay their illegals knowing that the illegals are too intimidated to report the offense?  I have seen this happen.  I have seen hispanic people ripped off by hispanics who work in the mortgage industry.  In my observation the hispanics are guilty of exploiting their own people many more times than the whites.</font></p> <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">So I would ask you, why do you tolerate exploitation of your own people?</font></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165411 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165411 <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">Our taxes might remain the same but then by logic the deficit would be lower and my kids and grandkids wouldn't have to pay that debt.  How do illegals affect my life.  The hard working average laborer benefits my life.  This could also be done by people who are here legally.  What have they done to me?  They have brought crime, corruption, and gang violence here through their kids.  I have to be more careful where I go in the evening, I have to be more careful when I drive, I have to secure my home, no more leaving the doors unlocked, even in the daytime.</font></p> <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">Explain to me why it is that the Latino culture makes up 35% of our population, yet is responsible for 85% of motor vehicle accidents and occupies 56% of our prison space?  The closer to the boarder the more these statistics change.  This is harm the illegals have brought to my life.</font></p> <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">And, by the way, if illegals built your home, you are guilty of exploiting them.  Do you know how often large home builders "neglect" to pay their illegals knowing that the illegals are too intimidated to report the offense?  I have seen this happen.  I have seen hispanic people ripped off by hispanics who work in the mortgage industry.  In my observation the hispanics are guilty of exploiting their own people many more times than the whites.</font></p> <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">So I would ask you, why do you tolerate exploitation of your own people?</font></p> <p><font size="4">The reason why so many people of color overwhelmingly occupy prisons is due to a mindset like yours a racist mind set which translates into laws.&nbsp; If race has anything to do with crime then can you explain to me what happened in Oildale?&nbsp; This is a white neighborhood with more crime&nbsp;and drugs than any area of Bakersfield.&nbsp; If race has anything to do with it wouldn't this neighborhood be a wonderful place?&nbsp; </font></p> <p><font size="4">Deficit going down how would you expect that to happen when we fund wars that&nbsp;our children will pay for forever with huge taxes and no social benefit.&nbsp; So your saying that crime, corruption and gang violence did not exist here before illegals, get real.&nbsp; The mafia existed before illegals, the KKK existed, anywhere where poor people have been so have gangs.&nbsp; Wow i must have&nbsp;slept right thru the crime free America before illegals came. &nbsp;You are using arguments that you have no real experience in.&nbsp; You should never use any service I listed on previous post, But until then every time you shop you will know your supporting it.&nbsp; </font></p> <p><font size="4">Tolerate the exploitation of my own people? that is why i am speaking out against this.&nbsp; I hired a legal <strong>white</strong> contractor (he was great) who hired his crews not me, and&nbsp;most live in a house built the same way.&nbsp;&nbsp; The men who built my house were not exploited in any way they were very happy to do the job and they did it without complaining or threat of lawsuit like so many American workers do.&nbsp; I spoke with many of them and told them not to worry that most Americans don't feel hate towards them and that i appreciate them building my home.&nbsp; You listed so many costs of illegals on your other post why don't you list the benefits?&nbsp;Will you not at least agree that you pay many times less for many things with illegals working here?</font></p> <p><font size="4">I guess I must have just grew up naive believing that one day our country would get past racism, i was naive that the American Dream was for all who came not just one race but for all.&nbsp; I guess my Grandparents and parents were naive telling me how great this country was and that it welcomed all who come to seek a better life and work hard to contribute to society.&nbsp; I guess your right that the America I was told to believe in was dead or never really existed at least not for my kind.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165416 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165416 <p><font size="4">The reason why so many people of color overwhelmingly occupy prisons is due to a mindset like yours a racist mind set which translates into laws.&nbsp; If race has anything to do with crime then can you explain to me what happened in Oildale?&nbsp; This is a white neighborhood with more crime&nbsp;and drugs than any area of Bakersfield.&nbsp; If race has anything to do with it wouldn't this neighborhood be a wonderful place?&nbsp; </font></p> <p><font size="4">Deficit going down how would you expect that to happen when we fund wars that&nbsp;our children will pay for forever with huge taxes and no social benefit.&nbsp; So your saying that crime, corruption and gang violence did not exist here before illegals, get real.&nbsp; The mafia existed before illegals, the KKK existed, anywhere where poor people have been so have gangs.&nbsp; Wow i must have&nbsp;slept right thru the crime free America before illegals came. &nbsp;You are using arguments that you have no real experience in.&nbsp; You should never use any service I listed on previous post, But until then every time you shop you will know your supporting it.&nbsp; </font></p> <p><font size="4">Tolerate the exploitation of my own people? that is why i am speaking out against this.&nbsp; I hired a legal <strong>white</strong> contractor (he was great) who hired his crews not me, and&nbsp;most live in a house built the same way.&nbsp;&nbsp; The men who built my house were not exploited in any way they were very happy to do the job and they did it without complaining or threat of lawsuit like so many American workers do.&nbsp; I spoke with many of them and told them not to worry that most Americans don't feel hate towards them and that i appreciate them building my home.&nbsp; You listed so many costs of illegals on your other post why don't you list the benefits?&nbsp;Will you not at least agree that you pay many times less for many things with illegals working here?</font></p> <p><font size="4">I guess I must have just grew up naive believing that one day our country would get past racism, i was naive that the American Dream was for all who came not just one race but for all.&nbsp; I guess my Grandparents and parents were naive telling me how great this country was and that it welcomed all who come to seek a better life and work hard to contribute to society.&nbsp; I guess your right that the America I was told to believe in was dead or never really existed at least not for my kind.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></p> <em>Racism? You think this has something to do with racism?  If a bunch of white Irish illegal immigrants came to America and sponged off welfare, working under the table collecting paychecks and welfare. Taking jobs that legal American's should have the right to, I'd be up in arms over that also.  Why do you feel you need to pull the race card out.  It's a comfy little feeling to say Oh, poor me, I'm a Mexican and people are against me.  Don't take it so personal.  I blame the employers of these people, who by the way are probably white, they are as much of the problem as the illegal IMMIGRANTS.  Not just Mexicans, any illegal who is here in our prison system, our welfare system, our school system(expecting us to teach them English when it should be the parent's job), turning our hospitals into free clinics.  I also have a problem with lazy legal white men who refuse to go out and get any job they can get to help provide for their family.  As being a person of the caucasion race, it's embarrassing to me that there are so many white men who would rather sit their ass at home than to help provide for their family.  And it's just as embarrassing that their are so many white men in our prison system, our welfare system and sending their kids to our public schools lacking any kind of discipline that should have been taught in the home.  I think illegal immigrants should be deported.  I think white men that go in and out of prison, should stay in prison.  I think any white man capable of working should be forced off of welfare and into any kind of job.    </em> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165421 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165421 <em>Racism? You think this has something to do with racism?  If a bunch of white Irish illegal immigrants came to America and sponged off welfare, working under the table collecting paychecks and welfare. Taking jobs that legal American's should have the right to, I'd be up in arms over that also.  Why do you feel you need to pull the race card out.  It's a comfy little feeling to say Oh, poor me, I'm a Mexican and people are against me.  Don't take it so personal.  I blame the employers of these people, who by the way are probably white, they are as much of the problem as the illegal IMMIGRANTS.  Not just Mexicans, any illegal who is here in our prison system, our welfare system, our school system(expecting us to teach them English when it should be the parent's job), turning our hospitals into free clinics.  I also have a problem with lazy legal white men who refuse to go out and get any job they can get to help provide for their family.  As being a person of the caucasion race, it's embarrassing to me that there are so many white men who would rather sit their ass at home than to help provide for their family.  And it's just as embarrassing that their are so many white men in our prison system, our welfare system and sending their kids to our public schools lacking any kind of discipline that should have been taught in the home.  I think illegal immigrants should be deported.  I think white men that go in and out of prison, should stay in prison.  I think any white man capable of working should be forced off of welfare and into any kind of job.    </em> <p>All I am saying is quit believing everything you read or see on fox news or Lou dobbs.&nbsp; Examine what the PERSONAL cost is to you and just try to be a loving human being of your fellow man.&nbsp; In your daily coming and going I would bet that an illegal doesn't bother you one bit.&nbsp; Can you not understand that our Government likes us all tangled up in race fighting and injustice so we are worried about getting more than the other.&nbsp; This way we will never see past the fact that they are ripping us off with tax and cooperate globalization.&nbsp; </p> <p>Believe me I'm not crying poor me this country has blessed me and my family beyond my wildest dreams.&nbsp; This is for so many people about race, my hats off to you if you don't skew your view due to that, but the fact is that so many false statistics are out from people for no other reason just hate other people.&nbsp; </p> <p>You have to understand something Olivia, I have lived through the dream of America.&nbsp; Me an &quot;anchor baby&quot; grew and thrived here.&nbsp; My grandparents became naturalized citizens the correct way and after that my Grandmother was deported to Mexico in a packing house raid.&nbsp; Deported even as an American citizen.&nbsp; This topic upsets me.&nbsp; Most people that complain about &quot;illegals&quot; do so without ever giving one thought as to how much work these people do for all of us.&nbsp; We all exists on this planet together no one is independent from anothers actions or lives without the hard work of others.&nbsp; Why can people not see this?</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165428 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165428 <p>All I am saying is quit believing everything you read or see on fox news or Lou dobbs.&nbsp; Examine what the PERSONAL cost is to you and just try to be a loving human being of your fellow man.&nbsp; In your daily coming and going I would bet that an illegal doesn't bother you one bit.&nbsp; Can you not understand that our Government likes us all tangled up in race fighting and injustice so we are worried about getting more than the other.&nbsp; This way we will never see past the fact that they are ripping us off with tax and cooperate globalization.&nbsp; </p> <p>Believe me I'm not crying poor me this country has blessed me and my family beyond my wildest dreams.&nbsp; This is for so many people about race, my hats off to you if you don't skew your view due to that, but the fact is that so many false statistics are out from people for no other reason just hate other people.&nbsp; </p> <p>You have to understand something Olivia, I have lived through the dream of America.&nbsp; Me an &quot;anchor baby&quot; grew and thrived here.&nbsp; My grandparents became naturalized citizens the correct way and after that my Grandmother was deported to Mexico in a packing house raid.&nbsp; Deported even as an American citizen.&nbsp; This topic upsets me.&nbsp; Most people that complain about &quot;illegals&quot; do so without ever giving one thought as to how much work these people do for all of us.&nbsp; We all exists on this planet together no one is independent from anothers actions or lives without the hard work of others.&nbsp; Why can people not see this?</p> <strong><font size="3">Bottom line is they are illegal, There are people all over the world that are suffering, do we also allow them to come to our country. NO. I told myself that I would not comment on this post because the people that are for illegal immigration have no respect for our immigration laws.Talking to them is like talking to a wall. In fact you would probably get more out of the wall. All the augments that they have really don't mater to me because the are supporting breaking of the law. Of&nbsp;course they will say the laws are racist and that we are mean people for wanting to have the laws&nbsp;enforced.&nbsp; They will use the line that these are poor hard working good&nbsp;people that just want to feed their family's and give to give their kids a better life. But what they leave out is that they are breaking the law to do&nbsp;it. I don't have all the answers&nbsp;but i want our laws enforced.&nbsp;What i find funny is Mexico has&nbsp; very stricked immigration laws that they enforce. Figure that one out.</font></strong> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165439 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165439 <strong><font size="3">Bottom line is they are illegal, There are people all over the world that are suffering, do we also allow them to come to our country. NO. I told myself that I would not comment on this post because the people that are for illegal immigration have no respect for our immigration laws.Talking to them is like talking to a wall. In fact you would probably get more out of the wall. All the augments that they have really don't mater to me because the are supporting breaking of the law. Of&nbsp;course they will say the laws are racist and that we are mean people for wanting to have the laws&nbsp;enforced.&nbsp; They will use the line that these are poor hard working good&nbsp;people that just want to feed their family's and give to give their kids a better life. But what they leave out is that they are breaking the law to do&nbsp;it. I don't have all the answers&nbsp;but i want our laws enforced.&nbsp;What i find funny is Mexico has&nbsp; very stricked immigration laws that they enforce. Figure that one out.</font></strong> <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">Olivia is right this has nothing to do with racism and perhaps you should listen to Lou Dobbs and Fox and not so much the leftist media.  Funny you should bring up Oildale that has a reputation for skinheads and intolerance.  You just hit the nail on the head and that is ignorance.  Ignorant whites are just a disturbing as ignorance in any other culture.  Your argument still doesn't explain the statistics.  Ignorance does.  Education is the key.  I have spent much time in Mexico and Central America.  I learned the language as a courtesy to the people there.  Those I spoke with might like to visit America, but they did not want to live here.  Why do you think that is?  Because the people I spoke with had decent lives in small towns with tourist income.  The people coming into the states come from the poorest villages and the most uneducated classes of their society.  Do I blame them for wanting a better life?  NO.  I want our laws to be enforced here.  I do NOT want 4 million undocumented aliens wandering our land in this day and age.  </font></p> <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">You keep hammering on the subject that we don't appreciate food, clothes, etc. handed to us by the sweat of the brow of the illegals.  I know for a fact that my home was not built by illegals because my contractor did not hire them.  My fruits and vegetables are bought at the farmers' market when in season and when I buy them at the store they have lables like Equador, Costa Rica and Nicaragua on them.  Clothing is mostly imported from India and China.  Oh yeah, my car's engine was assembled in Mexico.  If I had any reason to believe that illegals were working in the restaurants I frequent, I would be the first to call ICE, but then these are mainly family owned places and I know for a fact that they don't hire illegals.  No I don't see the GREAT positive impact of illegals in my life that you keep harping about.</font></p> <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">I do however see the HUGE potential for illegals to be exploited and I see it coming from their own race.  Regardless, illegal is illegal and if that be Mexican, Arab, Persian, Nicaraguan, or Canadian, they need to be rounded up and tossed out of this country.  At this point I am not even amiable to an amnesty program and arguments like yours calling me a racist aren't going to make me more amiable.  But when you don't have any other arguments the last one is always the race card isn't it?  Oh, by the way, I am part Comanche and part Kiowa, so I guess I have more of a claim in living here than you do, according to your logic.</font></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165442 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165442 <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">Olivia is right this has nothing to do with racism and perhaps you should listen to Lou Dobbs and Fox and not so much the leftist media.  Funny you should bring up Oildale that has a reputation for skinheads and intolerance.  You just hit the nail on the head and that is ignorance.  Ignorant whites are just a disturbing as ignorance in any other culture.  Your argument still doesn't explain the statistics.  Ignorance does.  Education is the key.  I have spent much time in Mexico and Central America.  I learned the language as a courtesy to the people there.  Those I spoke with might like to visit America, but they did not want to live here.  Why do you think that is?  Because the people I spoke with had decent lives in small towns with tourist income.  The people coming into the states come from the poorest villages and the most uneducated classes of their society.  Do I blame them for wanting a better life?  NO.  I want our laws to be enforced here.  I do NOT want 4 million undocumented aliens wandering our land in this day and age.  </font></p> <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">You keep hammering on the subject that we don't appreciate food, clothes, etc. handed to us by the sweat of the brow of the illegals.  I know for a fact that my home was not built by illegals because my contractor did not hire them.  My fruits and vegetables are bought at the farmers' market when in season and when I buy them at the store they have lables like Equador, Costa Rica and Nicaragua on them.  Clothing is mostly imported from India and China.  Oh yeah, my car's engine was assembled in Mexico.  If I had any reason to believe that illegals were working in the restaurants I frequent, I would be the first to call ICE, but then these are mainly family owned places and I know for a fact that they don't hire illegals.  No I don't see the GREAT positive impact of illegals in my life that you keep harping about.</font></p> <p><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">I do however see the HUGE potential for illegals to be exploited and I see it coming from their own race.  Regardless, illegal is illegal and if that be Mexican, Arab, Persian, Nicaraguan, or Canadian, they need to be rounded up and tossed out of this country.  At this point I am not even amiable to an amnesty program and arguments like yours calling me a racist aren't going to make me more amiable.  But when you don't have any other arguments the last one is always the race card isn't it?  Oh, by the way, I am part Comanche and part Kiowa, so I guess I have more of a claim in living here than you do, according to your logic.</font></p> Wow still dont get it!!! http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165443 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165443 Wow still dont get it!!! <strong><font size="3">your talking to a brick wall.</font></strong> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165448 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165448 <strong><font size="3">your talking to a brick wall.</font></strong> <p>I know I am</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165453 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165453 <p>I know I am</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <strong><font size="3">Xcite your the brick wall that just doesn't get it. What part of ILLEGAL do you not understand.</font></strong> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165455 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165455 <strong><font size="3">Xcite your the brick wall that just doesn't get it. What part of ILLEGAL do you not understand.</font></strong> It is obvious Xcite enjoys the profits he receives from slave labor and enjoys calling anyone a "racist" that does not agree with his blatant racism, refusing to say or do anything to hold a blatantly racist Mexico to account for its own citizens. Americans want secure borders and that does not translate into "racism" apart from those that profit from slave labor and have no argument apart from callling anyone a racist that disagrees with them. http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165495 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165495 It is obvious Xcite enjoys the profits he receives from slave labor and enjoys calling anyone a "racist" that does not agree with his blatant racism, refusing to say or do anything to hold a blatantly racist Mexico to account for its own citizens. Americans want secure borders and that does not translate into "racism" apart from those that profit from slave labor and have no argument apart from callling anyone a racist that disagrees with them. I couldn't have said it better myself SAM. http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165496 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165496 I couldn't have said it better myself SAM. Perhaps the apparent fact that the word &quot;illegal&quot; means nothing to this person is the problem. http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165541 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/Colitas/17533/#c_165541 Perhaps the apparent fact that the word &quot;illegal&quot; means nothing to this person is the problem. Concerned,I wholeheartily agree with your comments regarding the legal residents that are abusing the system.It's appauling.Regarding earlier European immigration though,there used to be quotas, rules and restrictions that had to be followed,often people had to be sponsered to enter the country.By in large,those legal immigrants were also incredibly gratefull to be here and tried hard to become Americans.They learned the language and often changed their names to reflect their new citizenship.They learned the laws and followed them and worked hard in their new home.That's a far cry from sneaking over the border illegaly and then demanding that your illegal status should be ignored.I think that the initial issue for most of us here is due to the choice of illegal entry and the concept that if a person is willing to br