http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/concerned/20012 I find it funny that joty says I could not have a valid rebuttal but time and time again I posted material backed up by national recognized standards, and joty would not answer the questions. The only way you try to get your credibility is by trying to make the person you are arguing with look stupid, but you do not answer any of the questions. I am still waiting for an answer to my questions.: Why can the SCVFD not enter a burning building without breaking the law? Is it because their turnouts, SCBA's, apparatus are outdated and out of compliance? Is it because the members lack the necessary training to run a fire incident? Do you carry automatic defibrillator's on your equipment? Do you keep track of your monthly training, and submit it like you are supposed to? Do you keep track of the incidents you go on, do you fill out the required incident reports and submit them for tracking to the proper agencies? Does the SCVFD have a physical fitness program, do they track and monitor the health of the volunteers, to make sure that the volunteers are fit for duty? Who dispatches the SCVFD to their calls, are they even dispatched or do you just listen to the scanner and jump the call when you hear the county fire dept responding? Why is the SCVFD not recognized as a volunteer fire dept? Is it true that if you are a Sand Canyon resident and trapped a burning house, or you are having a heart attack you will have to wait for the county fire dept to show up to be saved. I have no problem with volunteer fire depts as long as they meet the safety requirements, have the proper training and qualifications, and show up on scene and make a difference and don't contribute to the problem.  I have worked with some great ones in the state of California, If any of you are curious look up NFPA Standard 1500 it spells out requirements for every aspect of health and safety in career, volunteer, private, and military fire departments. NFPA 1500 covers everything from training, vehicles and equipment to protective clothing, emergency operations, and incident stress. Or NFPA 1720 This document specifies organization and deployment standards for initial attack structural fire suppression capabilities in volunteer fire departments. NFPA 1720 also provides guidance for those volunteer departments that provide emergency medical services and special operations. Then call the SCVFD and see for yourself if they are in compliance with recognized safety standards, and training requirements. I find it funny that joty says I could not have a valid rebuttal but time and time again I posted material backed up by national recognized standards, and joty would not answer the questions. The only way you try to get your credibility is by trying to make the person you are arguing with look stupid, but you do not answer any of the questions. I am still waiting for an answer to my questions.: Why can the SCVFD not enter a burning building without breaking the law? Is it because their turnouts, SCBA's, apparatus are outdated and out of compliance? Is it because the members lack the necessary training to run a fire incident? Do you carry automatic defibrillator's on your equipment? Do you keep track of your monthly training, and submit it like you are supposed to? Do you keep track of the incidents you go on, do you fill out the required incident reports and submit them for tracking to the proper agencies? Does the SCVFD have a physical fitness program, do they track and monitor the health of the volunteers, to make sure that the volunteers are fit for duty? Who dispatches the SCVFD to their calls, are they even dispatched or do you just listen to the scanner and jump the call when you hear the county fire dept responding? Why is the SCVFD not recognized as a volunteer fire dept? Is it true that if you are a Sand Canyon resident and trapped a burning house, or you are having a heart attack you will have to wait for the county fire dept to show up to be saved. I have no problem with volunteer fire depts as long as they meet the safety requirements, have the proper training and qualifications, and show up on scene and make a difference and don't contribute to the problem.  I have worked with some great ones in the state of California, If any of you are curious look up NFPA Standard 1500 it spells out requirements for every aspect of health and safety in career, volunteer, private, and military fire departments. NFPA 1500 covers everything from training, vehicles and equipment to protective clothing, emergency operations, and incident stress. Or NFPA 1720 This document specifies organization and deployment standards for initial attack structural fire suppression capabilities in volunteer fire departments. NFPA 1720 also provides guidance for those volunteer departments that provide emergency medical services and special operations. Then call the SCVFD and see for yourself if they are in compliance with recognized safety standards, and training requirements. en-us