http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095 I'm going through the articles on line and came across this genius.&nbsp; I'm wondering, when people move into a home near the tracks, do they give the noise a second thought any consideration&nbsp;when making their final decision before moving so close.&nbsp; Yeah, lets all honk our horns at intersections.....great idea but WE'RE NOT TRAINS!!&nbsp; Quality of life issue my patooty!&nbsp; The quality of life in Tehachapi is....IT'S A TRAIN TOWN!!&nbsp; What the hell is going through peoples heads. I am perplexed by all of the attention given to rebuilding the train depot. I've lived in Tehachapi for a few years and during this time have read several letters to your paper complaining about the noisy train horns blasting away 24 hours a day. I live over a mile from the tracks and can still hear those horns loud and clear. How all those poor souls who live within a few blocks get any sleep is a mystery to me. Are the city leaders doing anything to address this quality-of-life issue? If not, why not? The great enthusiasm our leaders place in rebuilding a &ldquo;historic&rdquo; train station is nice, but perhaps their energy and money might be better spent eliminating this noise pollution from our wonderful city. If you took a poll, most residents would probably prefer less train noise over a replica train station. That location would make a great and much-need parking lot and would increase safety visibility when driving north across the tracks. I understand the trains are following some ill-conceived Federal law mandating honking at intersections for safety purposes. Maybe we should all honk our car horns at every street intersection to keep us really safe. I suspect this was the least expensive and easiest solution for the railroad companies.&nbsp; There has got to be a better answer.&nbsp; Bakersfield had some success in solving this problem but it was expensive. Maybe we can combine efforts and synergize with other small towns that are bombarded with this noise and force some change at the Federal level, or at the very least, get the trains to stop blowing their horns in the middle of the night. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; C. Olsen I'm going through the articles on line and came across this genius.&nbsp; I'm wondering, when people move into a home near the tracks, do they give the noise a second thought any consideration&nbsp;when making their final decision before moving so close.&nbsp; Yeah, lets all honk our horns at intersections.....great idea but WE'RE NOT TRAINS!!&nbsp; Quality of life issue my patooty!&nbsp; The quality of life in Tehachapi is....IT'S A TRAIN TOWN!!&nbsp; What the hell is going through peoples heads. I am perplexed by all of the attention given to rebuilding the train depot. I've lived in Tehachapi for a few years and during this time have read several letters to your paper complaining about the noisy train horns blasting away 24 hours a day. I live over a mile from the tracks and can still hear those horns loud and clear. How all those poor souls who live within a few blocks get any sleep is a mystery to me. Are the city leaders doing anything to address this quality-of-life issue? If not, why not? The great enthusiasm our leaders place in rebuilding a &ldquo;historic&rdquo; train station is nice, but perhaps their energy and money might be better spent eliminating this noise pollution from our wonderful city. If you took a poll, most residents would probably prefer less train noise over a replica train station. That location would make a great and much-need parking lot and would increase safety visibility when driving north across the tracks. I understand the trains are following some ill-conceived Federal law mandating honking at intersections for safety purposes. Maybe we should all honk our car horns at every street intersection to keep us really safe. I suspect this was the least expensive and easiest solution for the railroad companies.&nbsp; There has got to be a better answer.&nbsp; Bakersfield had some success in solving this problem but it was expensive. Maybe we can combine efforts and synergize with other small towns that are bombarded with this noise and force some change at the Federal level, or at the very least, get the trains to stop blowing their horns in the middle of the night. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; C. Olsen en-us <p>This topic has already been discussed many times.............Into the ground !...............Blah Blah Blah.................... the trains where here first...........if it bothers you so Mr Olsen then why don't you move the hell out of Tehachapi....................Damn I am tired of crybabies............</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274429 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274429 <p>This topic has already been discussed many times.............Into the ground !...............Blah Blah Blah.................... the trains where here first...........if it bothers you so Mr Olsen then why don't you move the hell out of Tehachapi....................Damn I am tired of crybabies............</p> <p>I had to laugh too when I saw this article.&nbsp; If you don't like trains why would you CHOOSE to buy or rent a house within 5 miles of a train track?&nbsp; It's like buying near an airport then complaining about the noise!&nbsp; Don't people have brains anymore?</p> <p>Too bad the comments option was not available on this article--we bloggers would have had fun!&nbsp; But maybe that's why the comment option is not available anymore.&nbsp; <span style="font-size: medium;"><b>: )</b></span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274431 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274431 <p>I had to laugh too when I saw this article.&nbsp; If you don't like trains why would you CHOOSE to buy or rent a house within 5 miles of a train track?&nbsp; It's like buying near an airport then complaining about the noise!&nbsp; Don't people have brains anymore?</p> <p>Too bad the comments option was not available on this article--we bloggers would have had fun!&nbsp; But maybe that's why the comment option is not available anymore.&nbsp; <span style="font-size: medium;"><b>: )</b></span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Gube--I just clicked on your profile and do you realize you are <i>world famous?</i>&nbsp; Your blogs have been viewed an astonishing 21,000 times and your profile almost 2000 times!</p> <br /> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274433 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274433 <p>Gube--I just clicked on your profile and do you realize you are <i>world famous?</i>&nbsp; Your blogs have been viewed an astonishing 21,000 times and your profile almost 2000 times!</p> <br /> <p>Now Gube and Awsmom8,&nbsp;&nbsp;let's let the cat out of the bag and tell these people the truth about the trains.&nbsp;&nbsp; We all know that those noisy old trains hide in the depot until people sign rental agreements&nbsp;or buy property.&nbsp; I've personally seen these trains peeking out the windows with their little cowcatchers smirking evilly and their little smokestacks about to blow up from holding in the pressure.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Their tracks are confused with cattle guards,&nbsp; the crossing arms are thought to be some backwoods traffic lights----&nbsp;and---&nbsp; Oh, My!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Doesn't the depot itself look like some quaint little barn?&nbsp;&nbsp; Well, maybe I personally DON'T see the trains peeking out the depot windows,&nbsp; but in my mind, they are there each time I read about the train noise and the fact that others haven't noticed the trains until&nbsp;they get moved in.&nbsp;</p> <p>I laugh about it, too--next the mountains will have to go--they're blocking the view!&nbsp; LOL&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274436 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274436 <p>Now Gube and Awsmom8,&nbsp;&nbsp;let's let the cat out of the bag and tell these people the truth about the trains.&nbsp;&nbsp; We all know that those noisy old trains hide in the depot until people sign rental agreements&nbsp;or buy property.&nbsp; I've personally seen these trains peeking out the windows with their little cowcatchers smirking evilly and their little smokestacks about to blow up from holding in the pressure.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Their tracks are confused with cattle guards,&nbsp; the crossing arms are thought to be some backwoods traffic lights----&nbsp;and---&nbsp; Oh, My!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Doesn't the depot itself look like some quaint little barn?&nbsp;&nbsp; Well, maybe I personally DON'T see the trains peeking out the depot windows,&nbsp; but in my mind, they are there each time I read about the train noise and the fact that others haven't noticed the trains until&nbsp;they get moved in.&nbsp;</p> <p>I laugh about it, too--next the mountains will have to go--they're blocking the view!&nbsp; LOL&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>Well Maggie, while we are on the subject I say let's ban sunsets.&nbsp; I hate driving out the 202 when the sun sets as it causes me not to see well because of the sun.&nbsp; But you might be on to something--if we moved the mountains toward the end of the 202 it would create shade so the sun doesn't blind you!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><span style="font-size: medium;"><b><span style="font-size: small;">Which came first? The train track or the houses?</span></b></span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274439 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274439 <p>Well Maggie, while we are on the subject I say let's ban sunsets.&nbsp; I hate driving out the 202 when the sun sets as it causes me not to see well because of the sun.&nbsp; But you might be on to something--if we moved the mountains toward the end of the 202 it would create shade so the sun doesn't blind you!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><span style="font-size: medium;"><b><span style="font-size: small;">Which came first? The train track or the houses?</span></b></span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Maggie very true and very funny............................Yes mom the sunsets must go along with these damn birds that chirp and chirp and makes all that noise........the birds must go !</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274441 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274441 <p>Maggie very true and very funny............................Yes mom the sunsets must go along with these damn birds that chirp and chirp and makes all that noise........the birds must go !</p> <p>What about those darn wild flowers? I'd much rather hear the horn, than read&nbsp;a very sad obituary. I heard a story about an engineer that would blow like crazy through Tehachapi, because his mother-in-law lived by the tracks. Ha, I've also heard each engineer has their own style,toot, whatever. I surely don't mind any of those, but there is that one, right around 3ish..am. I swear he starts in Keene &amp; doesn't stop until Mohave, I wish he liked his Mom-in- law.&nbsp;</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274443 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274443 <p>What about those darn wild flowers? I'd much rather hear the horn, than read&nbsp;a very sad obituary. I heard a story about an engineer that would blow like crazy through Tehachapi, because his mother-in-law lived by the tracks. Ha, I've also heard each engineer has their own style,toot, whatever. I surely don't mind any of those, but there is that one, right around 3ish..am. I swear he starts in Keene &amp; doesn't stop until Mohave, I wish he liked his Mom-in- law.&nbsp;</p> <p>And those stupid ground squirrels that chirp!&nbsp; I have one that chirps nonstop.&nbsp; I can tell when he is sleeping because it is suddenly quiet.&nbsp; But not for long!&nbsp; I think he is paranoid OCD--maybe I'll put some meds in his H2O!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274446 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274446 <p>And those stupid ground squirrels that chirp!&nbsp; I have one that chirps nonstop.&nbsp; I can tell when he is sleeping because it is suddenly quiet.&nbsp; But not for long!&nbsp; I think he is paranoid OCD--maybe I'll put some meds in his H2O!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>awsmom if you have problems with squirrels let me know and I'll send over my Boyz along with their guns and they shoot that damn squirrel for you.....................It would be my pleasure............</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274450 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274450 <p>awsmom if you have problems with squirrels let me know and I'll send over my Boyz along with their guns and they shoot that damn squirrel for you.....................It would be my pleasure............</p> <p>There's a reason why new Federal regulations limit the volume of train horns to 110 db and there's a reason why towns are provided an avenue to regulate train horns, which is all Mr. Olsen is suggesting we follow - same as Bakersfield did. &nbsp;</p> <p>But we're dumber than Bakersfield, obviously. &nbsp;Trains have been putting out 140 and even 150 db - about the same as a jet engine. &nbsp;&nbsp;Is there NO limit to how obnoxious your beloved trains can get? How loud do they have to be to be heard?</p> <p>And awsmom - since when does &quot;I was here first&quot; rule apply to anything more important than your seat at the Hitching Post? &nbsp;Does the first person in the neighborhood get to have his parties as loud as he wants?</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274454 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274454 <p>There's a reason why new Federal regulations limit the volume of train horns to 110 db and there's a reason why towns are provided an avenue to regulate train horns, which is all Mr. Olsen is suggesting we follow - same as Bakersfield did. &nbsp;</p> <p>But we're dumber than Bakersfield, obviously. &nbsp;Trains have been putting out 140 and even 150 db - about the same as a jet engine. &nbsp;&nbsp;Is there NO limit to how obnoxious your beloved trains can get? How loud do they have to be to be heard?</p> <p>And awsmom - since when does &quot;I was here first&quot; rule apply to anything more important than your seat at the Hitching Post? &nbsp;Does the first person in the neighborhood get to have his parties as loud as he wants?</p> <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">&quot;<i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; ">There has got to be a better answer.</span></i>&quot; &nbsp;Yes, move.</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274479 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274479 <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">&quot;<i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; ">There has got to be a better answer.</span></i>&quot; &nbsp;Yes, move.</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Hey PD were not talking about obnoxious neighbors here...we're talking about trains that were here a hell of long time ago and obnoxious squirrels and birds and mountains and sunsets.  Get with the picture and stay on "track".  LOL </p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274553 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274553 <p>Hey PD were not talking about obnoxious neighbors here...we're talking about trains that were here a hell of long time ago and obnoxious squirrels and birds and mountains and sunsets.  Get with the picture and stay on "track".  LOL </p> <p>Actually, awsmom was justifying obnoxious behaviour on the grounds that the obnoxious actor was on the scene first.&nbsp; I don't think that normally counts for much, hence my question.&nbsp; Its a general one, not necessarily related only to trains....</p> <p>Lets move the conversation along, shall we?&nbsp; No need to re-run all the things we said before.</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274567 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274567 <p>Actually, awsmom was justifying obnoxious behaviour on the grounds that the obnoxious actor was on the scene first.&nbsp; I don't think that normally counts for much, hence my question.&nbsp; Its a general one, not necessarily related only to trains....</p> <p>Lets move the conversation along, shall we?&nbsp; No need to re-run all the things we said before.</p> <!--StartFragment--> <p class="MsoNormal">You state you&rsquo;ve lived here a few years, how many I have no idea, but did you not do your homework regarding Tehachapi BEFORE you moved here? It IS a train town and has been for well over 100 years. Why did you move here if you didn&rsquo;t want to hear the whistles.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">You ask if the city leaders are doing anything to address this quality of life issue. For some folks here the &ldquo;quality of life issue&rdquo; is &nbsp;the new people that move here and immediately start complaining about OUR way of life, OUR town, etc. and want it changed to have it &quot;their&quot; way. &nbsp;If you didn&rsquo;t want to hear train whistles, you shouldn&rsquo;t have moved here. Trains and Tehachapi are synonymous.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">For the last 21 years I have lived within 3 blocks of the tracks and right by a crossing. And yes, there are some engineers that seem to take delight in laying on the whistle all the way through town, but that doesn&rsquo;t happen ALL the time. Prior to living in town I lived in the unspoiled Cummings Valley for 14 years, and on a quiet night, I could hear the whistles all the way out there.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">I&rsquo;m sure that somewhere in this train town, you can likely find some earplugs.</p> <!--EndFragment--> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274574 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274574 <!--StartFragment--> <p class="MsoNormal">You state you&rsquo;ve lived here a few years, how many I have no idea, but did you not do your homework regarding Tehachapi BEFORE you moved here? It IS a train town and has been for well over 100 years. Why did you move here if you didn&rsquo;t want to hear the whistles.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">You ask if the city leaders are doing anything to address this quality of life issue. For some folks here the &ldquo;quality of life issue&rdquo; is &nbsp;the new people that move here and immediately start complaining about OUR way of life, OUR town, etc. and want it changed to have it &quot;their&quot; way. &nbsp;If you didn&rsquo;t want to hear train whistles, you shouldn&rsquo;t have moved here. Trains and Tehachapi are synonymous.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">For the last 21 years I have lived within 3 blocks of the tracks and right by a crossing. And yes, there are some engineers that seem to take delight in laying on the whistle all the way through town, but that doesn&rsquo;t happen ALL the time. Prior to living in town I lived in the unspoiled Cummings Valley for 14 years, and on a quiet night, I could hear the whistles all the way out there.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">I&rsquo;m sure that somewhere in this train town, you can likely find some earplugs.</p> <!--EndFragment--> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">The only thing that needs to move on here is that people need to get over their complaining and have a life! &nbsp;As soon as the whiners get the railroad to cut down on their whistle blowing, someone is gonna get hit and killed, then everyone will be up in arms about why there wasn't enough warning from the train! &nbsp;Wah, Wah!!!</span></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274576 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274576 <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">The only thing that needs to move on here is that people need to get over their complaining and have a life! &nbsp;As soon as the whiners get the railroad to cut down on their whistle blowing, someone is gonna get hit and killed, then everyone will be up in arms about why there wasn't enough warning from the train! &nbsp;Wah, Wah!!!</span></p> <p>Yeah right! We're just a country of whiners, anyhow. The train whistles are just a mental projection of all the complainers around here!</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274600 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274600 <p>Yeah right! We're just a country of whiners, anyhow. The train whistles are just a mental projection of all the complainers around here!</p> <p>Okie Dokie then!&nbsp; God knows it takes a whistle audible 15 miles away to keep Greg safe!</p> <p>And I love the line about &quot;OUR way of life&quot; - as if you, me, or anyone else from Tehachapi has anything to say about&nbsp;the way the Union Pacific does anything!&nbsp; I think you mean &quot;Federal Regulators and The Large Railroad Corporation&quot;'s way of life.&nbsp;&nbsp;Be assured that when&nbsp;they decide to change it, they'll do it without regard for OUR feelings!&nbsp; No doub the&nbsp;the boot-lickers will get in line to support&nbsp;that too!!</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274653 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274653 <p>Okie Dokie then!&nbsp; God knows it takes a whistle audible 15 miles away to keep Greg safe!</p> <p>And I love the line about &quot;OUR way of life&quot; - as if you, me, or anyone else from Tehachapi has anything to say about&nbsp;the way the Union Pacific does anything!&nbsp; I think you mean &quot;Federal Regulators and The Large Railroad Corporation&quot;'s way of life.&nbsp;&nbsp;Be assured that when&nbsp;they decide to change it, they'll do it without regard for OUR feelings!&nbsp; No doub the&nbsp;the boot-lickers will get in line to support&nbsp;that too!!</p> <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">Good morning PD. &nbsp;I swear, sometimes you are just too funny!!!</span></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274658 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274658 <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">Good morning PD. &nbsp;I swear, sometimes you are just too funny!!!</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">BTW PD, I don't need a 150db train horn to keep me safe, I have eyeballs and a brain and I use them in conjunction with each other to keep me safe! &nbsp;But I digress.</span></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274661 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274661 <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">BTW PD, I don't need a 150db train horn to keep me safe, I have eyeballs and a brain and I use them in conjunction with each other to keep me safe! &nbsp;But I digress.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: x-small"><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">I have heard the train horns while I was working up on South St. It scared the crap out of me---NO wait a minunte that was a truck with a train horn--HE MUST BE BANNED--from driving on the street and blowing his horn. Or better yet! Give me that horn&nbsp;and I will put it on my Harley and scare the crap out of thee next Cage driver who cuts me off, rides my @$$ or just acts like a jerk.....LOUD PIPES...LOUD HORNS...LUV IT&nbsp; ;-)</span></span></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274682 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274682 <p><span style="font-size: x-small"><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">I have heard the train horns while I was working up on South St. It scared the crap out of me---NO wait a minunte that was a truck with a train horn--HE MUST BE BANNED--from driving on the street and blowing his horn. Or better yet! Give me that horn&nbsp;and I will put it on my Harley and scare the crap out of thee next Cage driver who cuts me off, rides my @$$ or just acts like a jerk.....LOUD PIPES...LOUD HORNS...LUV IT&nbsp; ;-)</span></span></p> <p>Folks like noise...and shiny things....</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274687 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274687 <p>Folks like noise...and shiny things....</p> <p>I hesitate to chime in on this because although I moved to Tehachapi in the early '80s I didn't really realize how loud the train whistles can be. I have lived and learned and have been able to cope even though onlly living one mile from all the main intersections in town. So, yes, even though Tehachapi is a train town, I didn't really appreciate how annoying the horns can be at times. But, I accept the fact the trains were here long before I.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Now, that said, it doesn't have to always remain that way. As the town grows and more people move here who do not necessarily appreciate the historic signficance of trains as much, I think it will eventually change. The only thing certain in life is change. One day those who like the whistles and despise those who don't will be in the minority, and then the democratic process will result in use of the ordinances&nbsp; available&nbsp; (to limit the horns by means of other safety measures that are allowable in certain hours, etc.). So, I am very cognizant of those who like the trains, and have lived here for a long time, and may have even come here for them and are use to them, but I am also aware of those who don't. Both sides have a point, and whomever is in the majority will prevail. I can live with either (but ......sometimes wish it were quieter in the summer when I open the windows a lot at night--please forgive me for that rare desire......).</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274907 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274907 <p>I hesitate to chime in on this because although I moved to Tehachapi in the early '80s I didn't really realize how loud the train whistles can be. I have lived and learned and have been able to cope even though onlly living one mile from all the main intersections in town. So, yes, even though Tehachapi is a train town, I didn't really appreciate how annoying the horns can be at times. But, I accept the fact the trains were here long before I.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Now, that said, it doesn't have to always remain that way. As the town grows and more people move here who do not necessarily appreciate the historic signficance of trains as much, I think it will eventually change. The only thing certain in life is change. One day those who like the whistles and despise those who don't will be in the minority, and then the democratic process will result in use of the ordinances&nbsp; available&nbsp; (to limit the horns by means of other safety measures that are allowable in certain hours, etc.). So, I am very cognizant of those who like the trains, and have lived here for a long time, and may have even come here for them and are use to them, but I am also aware of those who don't. Both sides have a point, and whomever is in the majority will prevail. I can live with either (but ......sometimes wish it were quieter in the summer when I open the windows a lot at night--please forgive me for that rare desire......).</p> <p>Well it seems that we need to do away with the railroads, airlines, oh and by the way we need to also eliminate the moving 1000watt boom boxes and loud exhaust systems oh and I guess lawn mowers and weed whackers and maybe the loud mouth that lives next door and would sombody please shut those darn cats and dogs off.</p> <p>Even if they made the old depot property into a parking lot, the train would still be required to blow those horns at all times when crossign the rail grade crossing. You see, there are those dumb sh__s that will try to cross when a train approaches.</p> <p>As for Bakersfield, they had an ordinance in place prior to the federal regulation requiring the horm blowing and they have only recently made changes to enforce the quiet zone. If the citizens of the greater Tehachapi area, this includes Stallion Springs, Bear Valley, Alpine Forest and Moun tain Meadows want to pay to eithr raide the road or lower the railroad lines, then we could do away with the horns.</p> <p>I live 1 block from the depot location and yes the horn can be annoying at times, but I do sleep through them at night. Of course I could sleep through an atom bomb going off nest to my bed unless one of the kids coughed funny at night.</p> <p>Get a life people, this town grew around the rail depot and now you wnat the railroad to keep it quiet for you.</p> <p>Sandi said it right, you can hear the horns from 15 miles away. So unless you want&nbsp;to pay thousands of dollars in taxes to alleviate the problem shut up.&nbsp;</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274964 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274964 <p>Well it seems that we need to do away with the railroads, airlines, oh and by the way we need to also eliminate the moving 1000watt boom boxes and loud exhaust systems oh and I guess lawn mowers and weed whackers and maybe the loud mouth that lives next door and would sombody please shut those darn cats and dogs off.</p> <p>Even if they made the old depot property into a parking lot, the train would still be required to blow those horns at all times when crossign the rail grade crossing. You see, there are those dumb sh__s that will try to cross when a train approaches.</p> <p>As for Bakersfield, they had an ordinance in place prior to the federal regulation requiring the horm blowing and they have only recently made changes to enforce the quiet zone. If the citizens of the greater Tehachapi area, this includes Stallion Springs, Bear Valley, Alpine Forest and Moun tain Meadows want to pay to eithr raide the road or lower the railroad lines, then we could do away with the horns.</p> <p>I live 1 block from the depot location and yes the horn can be annoying at times, but I do sleep through them at night. Of course I could sleep through an atom bomb going off nest to my bed unless one of the kids coughed funny at night.</p> <p>Get a life people, this town grew around the rail depot and now you wnat the railroad to keep it quiet for you.</p> <p>Sandi said it right, you can hear the horns from 15 miles away. So unless you want&nbsp;to pay thousands of dollars in taxes to alleviate the problem shut up.&nbsp;</p> <p>I've often wondered if people can sleep through the sound of the trains.&nbsp; I imagine you would get used to it.&nbsp; We live in Golden Hills and can see the highway and the trains.&nbsp; It's kind of soothing to hear them from a distance.</p> <p>I remember years ago, I had to stay the night in Mojave in a hotel.&nbsp; Right across from the tracks.&nbsp; I thought I was going to absolutely lose my ever lovin' mind.&nbsp; I swear......every 20 minutes.&nbsp; Just about the time I would start to zzzzz..... another train.</p> <p>I do believe though, that if I lived closer to the tracks, it wouldn't be for long.&nbsp; So, why do people&nbsp;choose to&nbsp;live near the tracks and then complain about it.&nbsp; It's hard for me to understand or sympathize with that.</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274973 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_274973 <p>I've often wondered if people can sleep through the sound of the trains.&nbsp; I imagine you would get used to it.&nbsp; We live in Golden Hills and can see the highway and the trains.&nbsp; It's kind of soothing to hear them from a distance.</p> <p>I remember years ago, I had to stay the night in Mojave in a hotel.&nbsp; Right across from the tracks.&nbsp; I thought I was going to absolutely lose my ever lovin' mind.&nbsp; I swear......every 20 minutes.&nbsp; Just about the time I would start to zzzzz..... another train.</p> <p>I do believe though, that if I lived closer to the tracks, it wouldn't be for long.&nbsp; So, why do people&nbsp;choose to&nbsp;live near the tracks and then complain about it.&nbsp; It's hard for me to understand or sympathize with that.</p> <p>It's interesting the more I think of it. I'm so used to hearing the trains and not giving them much thought. It's when I don't here them that they get my attention, if that makes any sense. As for sleeping through them, I do a pretty darn good job of it. Dogs barking all night long or the bass of someone's stereo booming annoy me alot more than the trains.</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275051 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275051 <p>It's interesting the more I think of it. I'm so used to hearing the trains and not giving them much thought. It's when I don't here them that they get my attention, if that makes any sense. As for sleeping through them, I do a pretty darn good job of it. Dogs barking all night long or the bass of someone's stereo booming annoy me alot more than the trains.</p> <p>Complaining about train&nbsp;noise in Tehachapi is as lame as complaining about birds pooping on your car, when you love to park under that tree, for the shade! Ooohchild, if we apply your metaphor in regards to the Engineers blowing their horns in accordance to their gripes, I've narrowed, it down, Big Time. 9:00P.M.ish, that guy lays on it, like nobody's business. Now that really is a tad excessive. Not enough for me to get rid of our horns though.</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275109 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275109 <p>Complaining about train&nbsp;noise in Tehachapi is as lame as complaining about birds pooping on your car, when you love to park under that tree, for the shade! Ooohchild, if we apply your metaphor in regards to the Engineers blowing their horns in accordance to their gripes, I've narrowed, it down, Big Time. 9:00P.M.ish, that guy lays on it, like nobody's business. Now that really is a tad excessive. Not enough for me to get rid of our horns though.</p> <p>gene, since you absurdly believe that &quot;Bakersfield... had an ordinance in place prior to (it)&quot;, how about telling us when this&nbsp;*NEW* &quot;federal regulation requiring the horm blowing&quot; was established?&nbsp;&nbsp; What a&nbsp;laugh - I assure you that horn-blow requirements&nbsp;have been in place an extremely&nbsp;long time, and your analysis of Bakersfield is totally wrong....</p> <p>But you don't care about facts - just like you pretend not to notice that boom boxes,&nbsp;loud exhaust systems,&nbsp;lawn mowers and weed whackers,&nbsp;and even the&nbsp;loud mouth&nbsp;next door, are all either prohibited or highly regulated....do you bother to even try to make sense of what you write?</p> <p>Everybody IN FAVOR of protecting the right of folks to pound out rap music from the windows of their unmuffled cars, run their weed eaters at 4 in the morning, and fight incessently all night long, please STAND UP!!&nbsp; I expect to see lots of train-lovers joining with&nbsp;gene on this one....and remember, the loud and rude were here first!!</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275156 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275156 <p>gene, since you absurdly believe that &quot;Bakersfield... had an ordinance in place prior to (it)&quot;, how about telling us when this&nbsp;*NEW* &quot;federal regulation requiring the horm blowing&quot; was established?&nbsp;&nbsp; What a&nbsp;laugh - I assure you that horn-blow requirements&nbsp;have been in place an extremely&nbsp;long time, and your analysis of Bakersfield is totally wrong....</p> <p>But you don't care about facts - just like you pretend not to notice that boom boxes,&nbsp;loud exhaust systems,&nbsp;lawn mowers and weed whackers,&nbsp;and even the&nbsp;loud mouth&nbsp;next door, are all either prohibited or highly regulated....do you bother to even try to make sense of what you write?</p> <p>Everybody IN FAVOR of protecting the right of folks to pound out rap music from the windows of their unmuffled cars, run their weed eaters at 4 in the morning, and fight incessently all night long, please STAND UP!!&nbsp; I expect to see lots of train-lovers joining with&nbsp;gene on this one....and remember, the loud and rude were here first!!</p> <p>PD, don't forget, leaf blowers.</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275159 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275159 <p>PD, don't forget, leaf blowers.</p> <p>Good morning Tehachapi! Time to rub that sleep out of our eyes.....</p> <p>PD, that was gene, not gube. An easy mistake to make. I know who gene is, and he's definitely not gube.</p> <p>lori, *?*</p> <p>I don't think I made the comment you think I made.....</p> <p>;-)</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275170 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275170 <p>Good morning Tehachapi! Time to rub that sleep out of our eyes.....</p> <p>PD, that was gene, not gube. An easy mistake to make. I know who gene is, and he's definitely not gube.</p> <p>lori, *?*</p> <p>I don't think I made the comment you think I made.....</p> <p>;-)</p> <p>Thanks, oohchild...correction made.&nbsp; What comment do I think you made?</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275176 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275176 <p>Thanks, oohchild...correction made.&nbsp; What comment do I think you made?</p> <p>For the first nineteen years of my life I lived within one block of a freight train track.&nbsp; When I moved away I had trouble sleeping.&nbsp; It seems that iwas used to the train noise.&nbsp; I now live in Stallion Springs and I have heard the train whistle once or twice out here.&nbsp; I don't understand what the problem is.&nbsp; Get used to the noise.</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275177 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275177 <p>For the first nineteen years of my life I lived within one block of a freight train track.&nbsp; When I moved away I had trouble sleeping.&nbsp; It seems that iwas used to the train noise.&nbsp; I now live in Stallion Springs and I have heard the train whistle once or twice out here.&nbsp; I don't understand what the problem is.&nbsp; Get used to the noise.</p> <p>When i lived in rosamond so many years ago i too lived my the tracks, it was something u got used to but also know when that horn blows everytime sometimes gives you the pure satisfaction that they saved someones life while blowing that horn, either it being a kid around the tracks or a car trying to jump it, cmon when u think of trains 1st thing that comes to mind is &quot;i think i can, i think i can&quot; or a horn blowing loud.</p> <br /> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275180 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275180 <p>When i lived in rosamond so many years ago i too lived my the tracks, it was something u got used to but also know when that horn blows everytime sometimes gives you the pure satisfaction that they saved someones life while blowing that horn, either it being a kid around the tracks or a car trying to jump it, cmon when u think of trains 1st thing that comes to mind is &quot;i think i can, i think i can&quot; or a horn blowing loud.</p> <br /> <p><span style="font-size: small">lori, maybe that one engineer reads the TN Blogs...LOL!</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: small">Olivia, I have the same story about staying in a motel across the street from the tracks. Only this motel was right here in Tehachapi...the little Ranch Motel across from Mama Hillybeans. It is so close to the tracks our night there was like that episode of I Love Lucy. </span></p> <p><span style="font-size: small"><span style="font-size: small">Even if it were tongue in cheek,&nbsp;the statement&nbsp;&quot;the loud and rude were here first&quot;&nbsp;is too silly - even for PD, our resident devil's advocate. Pay attention PD, oochild was talking to lori about misunderstanding her (oochild's) comment...</span></span></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275181 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275181 <p><span style="font-size: small">lori, maybe that one engineer reads the TN Blogs...LOL!</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: small">Olivia, I have the same story about staying in a motel across the street from the tracks. Only this motel was right here in Tehachapi...the little Ranch Motel across from Mama Hillybeans. It is so close to the tracks our night there was like that episode of I Love Lucy. </span></p> <p><span style="font-size: small"><span style="font-size: small">Even if it were tongue in cheek,&nbsp;the statement&nbsp;&quot;the loud and rude were here first&quot;&nbsp;is too silly - even for PD, our resident devil's advocate. Pay attention PD, oochild was talking to lori about misunderstanding her (oochild's) comment...</span></span></p> <p>Here is a quote form a recent Tehachapi News story : </p> <p><span style="font-size: larger;">Mojave and Tehachapi were created in 1876 when the Southern Pacific arrived.&nbsp; Let's see progresso--trains have been here for 130 years..yet you move in and complain about them? FYI--Tehachpai is a train town.&nbsp; I did my homework and knew that BEFORE I moved here.&nbsp; Did I buy a house near the tracts?&nbsp; Nope--a long way away.<br /> </span></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275324 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275324 <p>Here is a quote form a recent Tehachapi News story : </p> <p><span style="font-size: larger;">Mojave and Tehachapi were created in 1876 when the Southern Pacific arrived.&nbsp; Let's see progresso--trains have been here for 130 years..yet you move in and complain about them? FYI--Tehachpai is a train town.&nbsp; I did my homework and knew that BEFORE I moved here.&nbsp; Did I buy a house near the tracts?&nbsp; Nope--a long way away.<br /> </span></p> <p>Gube I found my own non lethal way to rid of those pesty critters when they get out of hand.&nbsp; Mix castor oil and kitty litter together and sprinkle it around their hole.&nbsp; Doesn't kill them but creates&nbsp; the trots so bad they abandoned their hole.&nbsp; I've use it to keep them out of my horse area and they moved next door to my neighbors&nbsp; <span style="font-size: large;">;&nbsp; )</span></p> <br /> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275329 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275329 <p>Gube I found my own non lethal way to rid of those pesty critters when they get out of hand.&nbsp; Mix castor oil and kitty litter together and sprinkle it around their hole.&nbsp; Doesn't kill them but creates&nbsp; the trots so bad they abandoned their hole.&nbsp; I've use it to keep them out of my horse area and they moved next door to my neighbors&nbsp; <span style="font-size: large;">;&nbsp; )</span></p> <br /> <p><span style="font-size: small">I throw my doggy doo and cat poo down their holes...they vacate the area verrrry quickly.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: small">I don't hear train whistles because there is no intersection anywhere near SC, but on a clear, still night, I can hear the train itself.</span></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275373 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275373 <p><span style="font-size: small">I throw my doggy doo and cat poo down their holes...they vacate the area verrrry quickly.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: small">I don't hear train whistles because there is no intersection anywhere near SC, but on a clear, still night, I can hear the train itself.</span></p> <p>Okay ooohchild, don't quote me, <span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">The train whistles are (something) to the complaints around here.<span style="font-family: Arial"> I don't know how to get your statement over here, not as tricky as you guys. Thanks Joty, for clearing the confusion up. I couldn't get back to you,( power outage.)</span></span></p> <p><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-family: Arial">Are you guys referring to Gophers?</span></span></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275384 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275384 <p>Okay ooohchild, don't quote me, <span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">The train whistles are (something) to the complaints around here.<span style="font-family: Arial"> I don't know how to get your statement over here, not as tricky as you guys. Thanks Joty, for clearing the confusion up. I couldn't get back to you,( power outage.)</span></span></p> <p><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-family: Arial">Are you guys referring to Gophers?</span></span></p> <p>You and I both live far from the track, awsmom - so what right does that give us &nbsp;to belittle the complaints of those who live nearer to them?</p> <p>Once again you cite the same argument (&quot;they were here first&quot;) that I asked you to clarify in my first post. &nbsp; You never responded to my request for some principled justification for that odd idea, so you must not have one.</p> <p>Yet you repeat it - is it the only argument you know? &nbsp;Do you think repetition a proper substitution for logic?</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275700 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275700 <p>You and I both live far from the track, awsmom - so what right does that give us &nbsp;to belittle the complaints of those who live nearer to them?</p> <p>Once again you cite the same argument (&quot;they were here first&quot;) that I asked you to clarify in my first post. &nbsp; You never responded to my request for some principled justification for that odd idea, so you must not have one.</p> <p>Yet you repeat it - is it the only argument you know? &nbsp;Do you think repetition a proper substitution for logic?</p> <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">&quot;The railroad was here first&quot; is a very valid argument PD. &nbsp;Here, let me explain. &nbsp;If the railroad wasn't in place when people moved here, then they would have a valid argument when the railroad was put in <i>afterwards&nbsp;</i>and proceeded to make a lot of noise. &nbsp;But the fact that the railroad was here <i>first</i> leaves no excuse for people who move here then complain about the noise. &nbsp;Pretty simple isn't it? &nbsp;</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">Did you go to the meet and greet tonight?</span></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275722 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275722 <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">&quot;The railroad was here first&quot; is a very valid argument PD. &nbsp;Here, let me explain. &nbsp;If the railroad wasn't in place when people moved here, then they would have a valid argument when the railroad was put in <i>afterwards&nbsp;</i>and proceeded to make a lot of noise. &nbsp;But the fact that the railroad was here <i>first</i> leaves no excuse for people who move here then complain about the noise. &nbsp;Pretty simple isn't it? &nbsp;</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">Did you go to the meet and greet tonight?</span></p> <p>In real life, activities are regulated as needs arise. &nbsp;Hunting, trapping, and the use of fireworks are three activities that were formally allowed in areas of Tehachapi that are not allowed now - and I doubt if you would defend the unqualified protectionof &nbsp;those activities on the grounds that they were once common as you defend these idiotic train horns.</p> <p>Didn't go to the get-together tonight. &nbsp;I hope a good time was had by all.</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275739 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275739 <p>In real life, activities are regulated as needs arise. &nbsp;Hunting, trapping, and the use of fireworks are three activities that were formally allowed in areas of Tehachapi that are not allowed now - and I doubt if you would defend the unqualified protectionof &nbsp;those activities on the grounds that they were once common as you defend these idiotic train horns.</p> <p>Didn't go to the get-together tonight. &nbsp;I hope a good time was had by all.</p> <p>PD here's a couple of rocks for you to argue with......................</p> <p><img alt="rock" src="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/04/30/nyregion/30dino-533.jpg" /></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275744 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275744 <p>PD here's a couple of rocks for you to argue with......................</p> <p><img alt="rock" src="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/04/30/nyregion/30dino-533.jpg" /></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">PD, please, you're killing me, I can't even believe I'm responding, but I've had a long day at work and I'm punchy, so here goes.<br /> </span></p> <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">The activities you list are regulated because they are <i>dangerous</i>. &nbsp;How can you possibly lump train horns in with hunting, trapping, and fireworks! &nbsp;I could be wrong, but I don't really think train horns are dangerous, unless of course your ear is inches away from one when it blows!</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">Dude, you are the poster child for all the devil's advocates the world over!</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">OK, just a little more sparring, them I'm going to bed.</span></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275747 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275747 <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">PD, please, you're killing me, I can't even believe I'm responding, but I've had a long day at work and I'm punchy, so here goes.<br /> </span></p> <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">The activities you list are regulated because they are <i>dangerous</i>. &nbsp;How can you possibly lump train horns in with hunting, trapping, and fireworks! &nbsp;I could be wrong, but I don't really think train horns are dangerous, unless of course your ear is inches away from one when it blows!</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">Dude, you are the poster child for all the devil's advocates the world over!</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: larger; ">OK, just a little more sparring, them I'm going to bed.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: medium">OMG, Gube, you&nbsp;find&nbsp;the darndest pictures.&nbsp; LOL, two rocks.&nbsp; Great&nbsp;sense of humor for an asshole.</span>&nbsp;</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275885 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/olivia/30095/#c_275885 <p><span style="font-size: medium">OMG, Gube, you&nbsp;find&nbsp;the darndest pictures.&nbsp; LOL, two rocks.&nbsp; Great&nbsp;sense of humor for an asshole.</span>&nbsp;</p>