http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909 Seriously, who cares? I'm sure all the &quot;innocent&quot; children could care less what the sexuality of Dumbledore is as IT IS NOT RELEVANT TO THE STORY LINE, only adults with personal agendas make a big deal about this kind of stuff. I think you're using the &quot;innocence of children should not be betrayed&quot; argument as a front to express your own misgivings about homosexuality (&quot;There is good cause for those of us believing Rowling for whatever reason chose such a self-destructive thing as pronouncing Dumbledore a homosexual succumbing to some inner demon, a moment of temporary insanity if you will.&quot;). The innocence isn't being betrayed, no where in the books does she even imply that he is gay. Why does it even&nbsp;matter to anyone that a fictional character is gay? Don't we have better things to think (or worry?) about? Just because your Ph.D qualifies you to say something doesn't mean that your &quot;professional opinion&quot; is the end all of the discussion. The targeted population will always be entertained by the books because of the great story that is told, that is, unless people like you ruin it by lambasting the author for what she said after the series was finished when it doesn't even have any relevance to the story. &nbsp; Seriously, who cares? I'm sure all the &quot;innocent&quot; children could care less what the sexuality of Dumbledore is as IT IS NOT RELEVANT TO THE STORY LINE, only adults with personal agendas make a big deal about this kind of stuff. I think you're using the &quot;innocence of children should not be betrayed&quot; argument as a front to express your own misgivings about homosexuality (&quot;There is good cause for those of us believing Rowling for whatever reason chose such a self-destructive thing as pronouncing Dumbledore a homosexual succumbing to some inner demon, a moment of temporary insanity if you will.&quot;). The innocence isn't being betrayed, no where in the books does she even imply that he is gay. Why does it even&nbsp;matter to anyone that a fictional character is gay? Don't we have better things to think (or worry?) about? Just because your Ph.D qualifies you to say something doesn't mean that your &quot;professional opinion&quot; is the end all of the discussion. The targeted population will always be entertained by the books because of the great story that is told, that is, unless people like you ruin it by lambasting the author for what she said after the series was finished when it doesn't even have any relevance to the story. &nbsp; en-us <p><strong>posted by </strong><a href="http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/User/samheath"><font color="#800080"><strong>samheath</strong></font></a><strong>:</strong></p> <p><strong>&quot;With a Ph. D. in Human Behavior I'm qualified to say that no one supporting homosexuality or any other form of sexual perversion should be allowed contact with children.&quot;</strong></p> <p><em>Wow, that is a strong statement there Sam.&nbsp; Question?...What year did you receive your Ph. D.?&nbsp; I'm wondering if maybe you need some refresher courses?&nbsp; If you are going to use your &quot;qualifications&quot; to make statements against parenting, I think maybe you should keep up on your education.</em></p> <p><em>We found out several years ago, (when my kids were still little) that their Uncle was gay.&nbsp; I'm not going to say that it was a shock to find out.&nbsp; However, we were upset. Not angry upset. Sad upset. (this was my sister's husband).&nbsp; Did I &quot;support&quot; him.&nbsp; I don't think that's exactly the word I would use.&nbsp; Did I accept it and go on allowing my kids to love him.&nbsp; Yes I did.&nbsp; Did I plant seeds of perversion and hate in my children's heart for him. No I didn't.&nbsp; </em></p> <p><em>Why would I?&nbsp; This man is a nice man.&nbsp; He never practiced his &quot;homosexuality&quot; in front of my children.&nbsp; No public fecal tube dwelling was displayed.&nbsp; I was upset for my sister.&nbsp; I didn't understand why this was kept a secret for so long from her.&nbsp; But she survived it, moved on and is now with a man she loves with 2 babies.&nbsp; I think all in all, it worked out fine for her in the long run.</em></p> <p><em>I think your statement using the word &quot;supporting&quot; needs to be clarified.&nbsp; Your statement has lead me to the conclusion that no one accepting of &quot;homosexuality&quot; should be in contact with children. </em></p> <p><em>I've never been deleted from one of your posts, but didn't want to take the chance.</em></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_159711 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_159711 <p><strong>posted by </strong><a href="http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/User/samheath"><font color="#800080"><strong>samheath</strong></font></a><strong>:</strong></p> <p><strong>&quot;With a Ph. D. in Human Behavior I'm qualified to say that no one supporting homosexuality or any other form of sexual perversion should be allowed contact with children.&quot;</strong></p> <p><em>Wow, that is a strong statement there Sam.&nbsp; Question?...What year did you receive your Ph. D.?&nbsp; I'm wondering if maybe you need some refresher courses?&nbsp; If you are going to use your &quot;qualifications&quot; to make statements against parenting, I think maybe you should keep up on your education.</em></p> <p><em>We found out several years ago, (when my kids were still little) that their Uncle was gay.&nbsp; I'm not going to say that it was a shock to find out.&nbsp; However, we were upset. Not angry upset. Sad upset. (this was my sister's husband).&nbsp; Did I &quot;support&quot; him.&nbsp; I don't think that's exactly the word I would use.&nbsp; Did I accept it and go on allowing my kids to love him.&nbsp; Yes I did.&nbsp; Did I plant seeds of perversion and hate in my children's heart for him. No I didn't.&nbsp; </em></p> <p><em>Why would I?&nbsp; This man is a nice man.&nbsp; He never practiced his &quot;homosexuality&quot; in front of my children.&nbsp; No public fecal tube dwelling was displayed.&nbsp; I was upset for my sister.&nbsp; I didn't understand why this was kept a secret for so long from her.&nbsp; But she survived it, moved on and is now with a man she loves with 2 babies.&nbsp; I think all in all, it worked out fine for her in the long run.</em></p> <p><em>I think your statement using the word &quot;supporting&quot; needs to be clarified.&nbsp; Your statement has lead me to the conclusion that no one accepting of &quot;homosexuality&quot; should be in contact with children. </em></p> <p><em>I've never been deleted from one of your posts, but didn't want to take the chance.</em></p> <p>Sam Heath is a Homo Phobic that that dose not when to keep his mouth shut. You lose all credibility with statements such as gay bashing. Sam i always have believed that&nbsp;the men who&nbsp;act scared and talk mean comments about gay's are usually a little ''funny'' them self's. Sam are you a little funny ?</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_159725 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_159725 <p>Sam Heath is a Homo Phobic that that dose not when to keep his mouth shut. You lose all credibility with statements such as gay bashing. Sam i always have believed that&nbsp;the men who&nbsp;act scared and talk mean comments about gay's are usually a little ''funny'' them self's. Sam are you a little funny ?</p> <font size="3">Olivia - I too was wondering when Sam received his Ph.d. I know he is a generation or maybe two older than I - I'm 56. He definately needs a &quot;refresher&quot; course. It doesn't bother me so much coming from him because of his generation - that's how they were raised. It does, however, bother me coming from younger people like Sunshine. I feel a little sad for her 2 children.</font> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_159730 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_159730 <font size="3">Olivia - I too was wondering when Sam received his Ph.d. I know he is a generation or maybe two older than I - I'm 56. He definately needs a &quot;refresher&quot; course. It doesn't bother me so much coming from him because of his generation - that's how they were raised. It does, however, bother me coming from younger people like Sunshine. I feel a little sad for her 2 children.</font> <p><em>I'm 48, I too was not brought up in a generation that being gay was an accepted part of life.  We used to make fun of boys that seemed to be on the "feminine side".  I look back on those days long ago, and feel bad for those kids.  It's not like being made fun of or being shunned is going to turn them straight.  Maybe it would keep them in their place though huh Sam?</em></p> <p><em>When my kids were younger, they heard the remarks I would make about gays.  I would never intentionally mean to teach them to hate homosexuals, and I'm glad, that they didn't learn from what I actually was teaching them with my words of disgust.</em></p> <p><em>In turn, my children have, over the years taught me to be more accepting of people.  And I'm glad that they were able to teach me that.  Sometimes an older generation can learn from the younger generation.</em></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_159740 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_159740 <p><em>I'm 48, I too was not brought up in a generation that being gay was an accepted part of life.  We used to make fun of boys that seemed to be on the "feminine side".  I look back on those days long ago, and feel bad for those kids.  It's not like being made fun of or being shunned is going to turn them straight.  Maybe it would keep them in their place though huh Sam?</em></p> <p><em>When my kids were younger, they heard the remarks I would make about gays.  I would never intentionally mean to teach them to hate homosexuals, and I'm glad, that they didn't learn from what I actually was teaching them with my words of disgust.</em></p> <p><em>In turn, my children have, over the years taught me to be more accepting of people.  And I'm glad that they were able to teach me that.  Sometimes an older generation can learn from the younger generation.</em></p> He should read DSM-IV (they're working on five right now).&nbsp; Homosexuality has not been listed as a sexual deviation since DSM-II.&nbsp; And even then, in 1973 the DSM-II was modified to change &quot;homosexuality&quot; to &quot;sexual orientation disturbance&quot;.&nbsp; Now the only category it could remotely be placed under is &quot;Sexual Disorder not otherwise specified&quot;.&nbsp; I would think that to understand Human Behavior, he should be fairly familiar with psychiatry and the current diagnoses. http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_159747 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_159747 He should read DSM-IV (they're working on five right now).&nbsp; Homosexuality has not been listed as a sexual deviation since DSM-II.&nbsp; And even then, in 1973 the DSM-II was modified to change &quot;homosexuality&quot; to &quot;sexual orientation disturbance&quot;.&nbsp; Now the only category it could remotely be placed under is &quot;Sexual Disorder not otherwise specified&quot;.&nbsp; I would think that to understand Human Behavior, he should be fairly familiar with psychiatry and the current diagnoses. <p><font size="3">I was in my twenties when I realized gay people are just like you and me. When I think back on all the hateful things my mother (again, because of how she was raised) would say and I would parrot her, it must have been like knives in my brother's heart. He knew from the age of three that he was &quot;different&quot;. We hurt him through ignorance, but thankfully, most of my family have taken the time to listen and learn. And you know what's funny? Most people deal with gay people on a day-to-day basis and don't even realize it, lol. And I don't think there is a family that exists that doesn't have at least one gay relative. In my large family, there are several.</font></p> <p><font size="3">Madkow, something tells me Sam is not real current on these issues. He seems to be so intelligent his attitude kinda caught me off guard.</font></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_159760 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_159760 <p><font size="3">I was in my twenties when I realized gay people are just like you and me. When I think back on all the hateful things my mother (again, because of how she was raised) would say and I would parrot her, it must have been like knives in my brother's heart. He knew from the age of three that he was &quot;different&quot;. We hurt him through ignorance, but thankfully, most of my family have taken the time to listen and learn. And you know what's funny? Most people deal with gay people on a day-to-day basis and don't even realize it, lol. And I don't think there is a family that exists that doesn't have at least one gay relative. In my large family, there are several.</font></p> <p><font size="3">Madkow, something tells me Sam is not real current on these issues. He seems to be so intelligent his attitude kinda caught me off guard.</font></p> <em>I know what you mean Joty, I have read some of Sam's blogs.&nbsp; They are so long. But when the topic is interesting I enjoy reading them.&nbsp; Then Bam out of nowhere, I read this homosexual deviant comment.&nbsp; My first thought was .... JIM.</em> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_159926 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_159926 <em>I know what you mean Joty, I have read some of Sam's blogs.&nbsp; They are so long. But when the topic is interesting I enjoy reading them.&nbsp; Then Bam out of nowhere, I read this homosexual deviant comment.&nbsp; My first thought was .... JIM.</em> <font size="3">lol...yep. Speaking of jim, <strong><em>HE</em></strong> would be perfect for Jerry Springer!!!!</font> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160009 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160009 <font size="3">lol...yep. Speaking of jim, <strong><em>HE</em></strong> would be perfect for Jerry Springer!!!!</font> <div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">I get so confused on this subject. For every study that &ldquo;proves&rdquo; that it&rsquo;s a genetic makeup issue, there is a study that &ldquo;proves&rdquo; that it&rsquo;s a learned behavior or it&rsquo;s due to some traumatic experience in a person&rsquo;s life. So basically you can&rsquo;t believe anything anyone else says. You can&rsquo;t fault someone for being&nbsp;born that way. But are they born that way? I mean, from all the talk shows I&rsquo;ve seen on the subject, I would have to say yes. The majority of the homosexuals on talk shows say that they didn&rsquo;t want to be gay, they just are. I truly believe that not all homosexuals had a poor childhood or experienced some traumatic event that &ldquo;caused&rdquo; them to be that way. Sure, it could be some big conspiracy by </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Hollywood</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"> to &ldquo;make it ok&rdquo; or desensitize the general public to homosexuality. Then again, I have personally spoke to some gay people who have said the same thing. They grew up wishing they were &ldquo;normal&rdquo;. They wished that they were not gay. That only leads me to believe that they are truly born that way. How many stories have you heard about a husband leaving his wife for another man or vice versa? Doesn&rsquo;t that show that they were denying their true sexuality?</span></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">&nbsp;</div> <div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">On the other hand, how many stories have you heard about a completely straight guy going to prison and coming out a total flamer and not wanting to have anything to do with women? Or what about the guy that experiments with threesomes and/or orgies then ends up preferring men? Was he gay or bi all along and didn&rsquo;t know it or did he just learn to like it? Honestly I think it can also be a learned behavior. </span></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">&nbsp;</div> <div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">I have two cousins that are gay. One has been with women before but never had a girlfriend that I could remember. The other was married and has two children. I love them very much and I just tell them &ldquo;hey, whatever blows your skirt up, but I don&rsquo;t want to see it.&rdquo; </span></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">&nbsp;</div> <div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">All I really know is it&rsquo;s just too much for my feeble little brain to handle :)</span></div> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160021 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160021 <div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">I get so confused on this subject. For every study that &ldquo;proves&rdquo; that it&rsquo;s a genetic makeup issue, there is a study that &ldquo;proves&rdquo; that it&rsquo;s a learned behavior or it&rsquo;s due to some traumatic experience in a person&rsquo;s life. So basically you can&rsquo;t believe anything anyone else says. You can&rsquo;t fault someone for being&nbsp;born that way. But are they born that way? I mean, from all the talk shows I&rsquo;ve seen on the subject, I would have to say yes. The majority of the homosexuals on talk shows say that they didn&rsquo;t want to be gay, they just are. I truly believe that not all homosexuals had a poor childhood or experienced some traumatic event that &ldquo;caused&rdquo; them to be that way. Sure, it could be some big conspiracy by </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Hollywood</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"> to &ldquo;make it ok&rdquo; or desensitize the general public to homosexuality. Then again, I have personally spoke to some gay people who have said the same thing. They grew up wishing they were &ldquo;normal&rdquo;. They wished that they were not gay. That only leads me to believe that they are truly born that way. How many stories have you heard about a husband leaving his wife for another man or vice versa? Doesn&rsquo;t that show that they were denying their true sexuality?</span></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">&nbsp;</div> <div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">On the other hand, how many stories have you heard about a completely straight guy going to prison and coming out a total flamer and not wanting to have anything to do with women? Or what about the guy that experiments with threesomes and/or orgies then ends up preferring men? Was he gay or bi all along and didn&rsquo;t know it or did he just learn to like it? Honestly I think it can also be a learned behavior. </span></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">&nbsp;</div> <div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">I have two cousins that are gay. One has been with women before but never had a girlfriend that I could remember. The other was married and has two children. I love them very much and I just tell them &ldquo;hey, whatever blows your skirt up, but I don&rsquo;t want to see it.&rdquo; </span></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">&nbsp;</div> <div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">All I really know is it&rsquo;s just too much for my feeble little brain to handle :)</span></div> <p><font size="3">First Oilfield, define normal...</font></p> <p><font size="3">I don't buy into the &quot;learned behavior&quot;. Did you choose to be born male? Did you choose to be white? Did you choose to be straight? Nope, you were born that way.</font></p> <p><font size="3">People who deny their sexuality do it out of fear of societal rejection and too many times familial rejection. What person would choose to have to listen to people just as jim (go read his blog...he's f**in nuts). Something else you might want to think about. Maybe it's just Mother Nature's way of population control. What if everyone on earth were breeders? Oy!</font></p> <p><font size="3">Why can't people just live and let live?</font></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160256 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160256 <p><font size="3">First Oilfield, define normal...</font></p> <p><font size="3">I don't buy into the &quot;learned behavior&quot;. Did you choose to be born male? Did you choose to be white? Did you choose to be straight? Nope, you were born that way.</font></p> <p><font size="3">People who deny their sexuality do it out of fear of societal rejection and too many times familial rejection. What person would choose to have to listen to people just as jim (go read his blog...he's f**in nuts). Something else you might want to think about. Maybe it's just Mother Nature's way of population control. What if everyone on earth were breeders? Oy!</font></p> <p><font size="3">Why can't people just live and let live?</font></p> <p>Homosexuality occurs in wild animals? Wow, ya learn somethin new everyday. oO(I gotta watch more Animal Planet). </p> <p>Joty, I can't define normal. That's why I put it in &quot;quotes&quot; just as you quoted &quot;learned behavior&quot;. Now maybe I'm wrong but being male and being white aren't behaviors. I do agree that I was &quot;born straight&quot;. But I must ask, how can you not believe in learned behavior? Isn't that one of parents' main roles as parents? To teach their children how to behave in pulic, in school, in church, at family functions, etc? Perhaps &quot;learned sexual preference&quot; or &quot;learned sexual orientation&quot; are better terms. Out of curiosity, do you think that murderers are born murderers? Either way, isn't is saying the same thing?</p> <p>I can't believe I'm actually enjoying the conversation about this topic.&nbsp; Enquiring minds I guess.&nbsp;&nbsp; :)</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160284 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160284 <p>Homosexuality occurs in wild animals? Wow, ya learn somethin new everyday. oO(I gotta watch more Animal Planet). </p> <p>Joty, I can't define normal. That's why I put it in &quot;quotes&quot; just as you quoted &quot;learned behavior&quot;. Now maybe I'm wrong but being male and being white aren't behaviors. I do agree that I was &quot;born straight&quot;. But I must ask, how can you not believe in learned behavior? Isn't that one of parents' main roles as parents? To teach their children how to behave in pulic, in school, in church, at family functions, etc? Perhaps &quot;learned sexual preference&quot; or &quot;learned sexual orientation&quot; are better terms. Out of curiosity, do you think that murderers are born murderers? Either way, isn't is saying the same thing?</p> <p>I can't believe I'm actually enjoying the conversation about this topic.&nbsp; Enquiring minds I guess.&nbsp;&nbsp; :)</p> <p>I think Joty means that she doesn't buy into the idea that homosexuality is a learned behavior.</p> <p>Being male and being white aren't behaviors, but homosexuality isn't either, it is a feeling, an urge. It only becomes a behavior if you act on that urge. </p> <p>I definitely think that some people are born more inclined to be homocidal, but it's not as simple as that. One might be born with a personality disorder which makes them more inclined to kill. </p> <p>When it comes down to it, it's the levels of chemicals in our brains that dictate our behavior, so unless you can consicously alter those levels, I don't see any way for our feelings, urges, or the likelyhood of us acting on those urges to be entirely a consequence of conscious choice. Seeing that homo and heterosexuality are feelings or urges, I don't think that being gay is totally a matter of wanting to be that way. </p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160291 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160291 <p>I think Joty means that she doesn't buy into the idea that homosexuality is a learned behavior.</p> <p>Being male and being white aren't behaviors, but homosexuality isn't either, it is a feeling, an urge. It only becomes a behavior if you act on that urge. </p> <p>I definitely think that some people are born more inclined to be homocidal, but it's not as simple as that. One might be born with a personality disorder which makes them more inclined to kill. </p> <p>When it comes down to it, it's the levels of chemicals in our brains that dictate our behavior, so unless you can consicously alter those levels, I don't see any way for our feelings, urges, or the likelyhood of us acting on those urges to be entirely a consequence of conscious choice. Seeing that homo and heterosexuality are feelings or urges, I don't think that being gay is totally a matter of wanting to be that way. </p> <p>You make valid points rm6. I agree with you but I would think that if it's&nbsp;a chemical composition issue, they'd have a pill for that. Maybe they do. hmmm time to do some research.</p> <p>Thanks.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160301 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160301 <p>You make valid points rm6. I agree with you but I would think that if it's&nbsp;a chemical composition issue, they'd have a pill for that. Maybe they do. hmmm time to do some research.</p> <p>Thanks.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> They have pills to fix simple chemical imbalances that presumably cause things like depression, however trying to alter an <em>instinct</em> and that is what sexual identity is, is way beyond the technologies of today. http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160309 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160309 They have pills to fix simple chemical imbalances that presumably cause things like depression, however trying to alter an <em>instinct</em> and that is what sexual identity is, is way beyond the technologies of today. <p><font size="3">Yes, rm6, I was referring to learned behavior regarding sexuality. I don't think I agree that sexuality comes down to being just an urge either. Addictions are urges. I believe each human is born with a sexual predilection firmly in place. </font></p> <p><font size="3">Homicide is not a behavior either. Again, an urge that a lot of us might think about but don't act on.</font></p> <p><font size="3">And Ben, my little female Chihuahua will hump anything...LOL!!!</font></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160366 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160366 <p><font size="3">Yes, rm6, I was referring to learned behavior regarding sexuality. I don't think I agree that sexuality comes down to being just an urge either. Addictions are urges. I believe each human is born with a sexual predilection firmly in place. </font></p> <p><font size="3">Homicide is not a behavior either. Again, an urge that a lot of us might think about but don't act on.</font></p> <p><font size="3">And Ben, my little female Chihuahua will hump anything...LOL!!!</font></p> heh heh, good point about the homocide thing... http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160370 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160370 heh heh, good point about the homocide thing... <strong><font size="3">oilfeildtrash sorry dude but i personally don't know any man that went to prison as a straight guy and came out as a flammer..................... </font></strong> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160378 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160378 <strong><font size="3">oilfeildtrash sorry dude but i personally don't know any man that went to prison as a straight guy and came out as a flammer..................... </font></strong> <p><strong><font size="3">well Trouble is a little mix up</font></strong> <strong><font size="3">but i wouldn't call him a flamer......at least i wouldn't call him one to his face.</font></strong></p> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160405 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160405 <p><strong><font size="3">well Trouble is a little mix up</font></strong> <strong><font size="3">but i wouldn't call him a flamer......at least i wouldn't call him one to his face.</font></strong></p> <strong><font size="5">urge hell i'll show you a urge. Yo awsmom8 i aint no flammer i'm prison gay, there is a differance. get it right or i'll be seeing you....got it. YO big pooch you damn right&nbsp;your not going to call me a flammer to my face cause if you did i would add you to my you can kiss my azz club and kix your azz</font></strong> http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160427 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160427 <strong><font size="5">urge hell i'll show you a urge. Yo awsmom8 i aint no flammer i'm prison gay, there is a differance. get it right or i'll be seeing you....got it. YO big pooch you damn right&nbsp;your not going to call me a flammer to my face cause if you did i would add you to my you can kiss my azz club and kix your azz</font></strong> Thanks Trouble!&nbsp; I just knew you would set us straight!!!!!&nbsp; I had no doubt about it!!!! ; ) http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160467 http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/rm6/16909/#c_160467 Thanks Trouble!&nbsp; I just knew you would set us straight!!!!!&nbsp; I had no doubt about it!!!! ; )