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LOL, Joty.   Just the thoughts of anyone peeing in Wheaties makes me laugh.  Guess I did get a little irritated after  oohchild remarked that she was hesitant to use Kaiser doctors.  You find good/bad doctors in private practice as well as HMOs, the odds are about the same and you have to keep trying until you find one that you like.   As for waiting for appointments at Kaiser, that happens.   It also happens in private practice.  You may not be able to see your 'private' doctor and may have to take the one on call or whoever is in the ER.   Anyway, good luck in your doctor/dentist search, Smokey. 
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